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History’s Most Haunted comes a rockin’ as another hit for T+E and we have the goods, the lowdown, if you will, on the inner workings of this new hit show. Join the History’s Most Haunted cast (remember them from the Gold Rush days?!) of Corine Carey, Leanne Sallenback, and Kelly Ireland as they come back to sit down with Jim and give another amazing (and spine tingling) interview.

Hear about the spookiest of the spookies (an electro Ouija!), the coldest of the cold (Montreal and the sheer ice-walks?!), and the uhhh safety wordest of the safety words (a place so deep with ghostly activity it almost conjured up the safe word!). All this and more on the next what’s Kraken!


(Hey! Don’t forget to tune in Friday 8 September at 10pm ET/PT during the FREEEEEEEEEE preview event on T+E!)

Follow Corine Carey, Leanne Sallenback and Kelly Ireland as they investigate hauntings in iconic world-famous locations including Montreal, Newfoundland, Salem, New Orleans, Charleston and San Antonio

History’s Most Haunted premieres Friday, September 8 at 10 p.m. ET/PT on T+E during the channel’s nationwide free preview event, running September 4 to November 5

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Auto-transcripts for the History’s Most Haunted Interview (YYMV on accuracy!)

00:00.00
jim_phoenix
Hey, everyone Jim Phoenix here and boy am I excited to be back of what’s crack and that’s right, our awesome super secret interview show. That’s off of ya hiatus and we’re launching in style and style. We’ve got none other than t and es. History’s most haunted show is brand new. That’s brand new by the way if you’ve got everything to do us September Eighth at 10 p M Eastern pacific on t and e free preview. Check it out, history’s most haunted is going to be super nova big. We’ve got coreine say hi. We’ve got we and say hello or hi what everyone really.

00:30.67
Corine
Um, hello.

00:33.83
Leanne Sallenback
Hey guys.

00:37.18
jim_phoenix
Go and Kelly say what that area if you hear their voices and you see their faces like boy they look familiar. That’s because they were doing a gold rush. Did you guys find gold. First of all, how was your gold rushing going. Did you find the gold.

00:37.53
Kelly Ireland
Hey.

00:51.81
Leanne Sallenback
Ah.

00:53.47
jim_phoenix
This is how we’re doing are you buying Teeny Now that’s what it is.

00:55.13
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, there was no time for pan and gold. You know.

01:00.69
jim_phoenix
There’s no time for but no time for love Dr. Jones absolutely so this new one history’s most haunted I know you like the roadships because you talked about this last time right. Is this a continuation from the road trip. Let’s see where the we have the most haunted places in Canada.

01:20.17
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, it’s um, an epic continuation of that because we went all over North America to some of the most haunted historical locations so we definitely had to jump on some planes to get to where we wanted to go but it was. Ah, great continuation of haunted gold rush but in a very like bigger scope.

01:41.81
jim_phoenix
I think that I’ve seen the previews and I do appreciate the ah advance and yes bigger scope. That’s exactly yet now Kelly and correne I want to know if you can go anywhere where would you go for haunting if you could haunt something Where would you go for haunting if you want to hunt some place of all places you’ve been because just you’ve been talking to the ghost you seen the ghost. You’ve been all over and see all these cool places. What place are you like you know I really should ha Hawaii I surely should want like. Maybe even a history’s most haunted from the beyond?

01:59.57
Corine
But like if I wanted to to haunt them. But.

01:59.67
Kelly Ireland
If I could find.

02:01.61
Leanne Sallenback
Um, the.

02:11.80
Kelly Ireland
So I’ve already told my family I can haunt them so that’s one but also maybe like a really cool beach.

02:12.10
Leanne Sallenback
But.

02:17.63
jim_phoenix
So beaches are great beaches.

02:20.77
Leanne Sallenback
But.

02:22.10
Corine
Um I think for me would be anything like anything in Europe or historical castles or something where people are expecting to get scared I would love to help with that. Yeah.

02:30.86
jim_phoenix
Oh that is brilliant. It’ll be like to dungeon and Dragons Castle group I’m like oh I’m real ghostal that’ll be so cool. Yeah, where would you want to go where would you want to go if you’re hunting anywhere in history’s most haunted

02:37.82
Corine
For me.

02:42.24
Leanne Sallenback
Um, my husband I agree with Kelly I’m definitely on him and probably some of those like ancient sites right? like just hang out at the pyramids hang out a match be to do it.

02:50.87
jim_phoenix
Oh that is a brilliant brilliant plan to man. These are all great places Now What was the best place you’ve seen ghosts this tour with was the most active active place that makes sense the one that’s just like lit up all the spirit cameras and. All those things.

03:10.88
Kelly Ireland
They were all wild. Um, the last one that we end on Bell Islands was like that was the only place we’ve ever thought. Maybe we couldn’t do an investigation because it was a lot especially for Karne. Yeah, yeah.

03:23.38
Corine
The.

03:27.60
Kelly Ireland
For me that was I think the biggest 1

03:30.34
Corine
Yeah Bell Island surprised me I was um I don’t normally get scared like that feeling where you know you shouldn’t be there get out and yeah, definitely no spoilers but in Bell Island top to watch because it was touch and go if you were going to continue on that one for a bit.

03:30.50
jim_phoenix
Um, okay.

03:36.84
jim_phoenix
Yes.

03:45.23
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, and even in Montreal like we went to Montreal as well. And yeah, definitely yeah, there’s some moments in that episode too. Where yeah like the gear you can’t deny what’s happening.

03:47.16
jim_phoenix
Um, that’s awesome leon. How about yeah.

03:53.77
Corine
Okay.

03:54.31
jim_phoenix
That’s right, you did.

03:56.19
Kelly Ireland
Um, get on.

04:03.33
jim_phoenix
It’s everything just fell off my thing as you said Montreal haunting from history’s most haunted. I’m like okay calm down ghost. So weirdly enough they ah the MTL in haunted Mtl stood for Montreal for longest time and I started out ghost hunting in some of the places you were I’m like oh my god. And so I was comparing noes mic. Yes, that’s a very that’s ah, that’s another place I won’t say where but there are things and techniques can you go in a little bit about the technology because it’s gone a long way since my day of the the you know recording high is anyone there and then listening back in like 12 hours later like okay, no.

04:35.58
Corine
Um.

04:39.28
jim_phoenix
But now you have like the ouija board with the the the the word board. The am I getting this right there like am I making stuff up now. Oh.

04:45.10
Corine
Um, know yeah, the obellu. Yeah, not only you do? Um, yeah no I would agree like when we when I was you know in my late teens early 20 s it was like a recorder no ouija board I totally kind of like the pendulum or whatever.

04:56.85
jim_phoenix

yeah this episode of history’s most haunted sounds killer

05:00.34
Corine
But yeah, we’ve come a long way and I think technology itself has come a long way and so now we use things like the ovilu we’re looking at you know the rampods that detect electromagnetic energy and frequency like energetic changes in a space. You know they’re using Xbox kind of like connect. We technology to map in stick figures using like.

05:09.35
jim_phoenix
Right.

05:20.28
Corine
Advanced technology to see spirits mapping in in a space where you know like for myself when I started buying this equipment years ago. You know it was almost for validation for me like okay well I’m seeing something and if this is supposed to show a stick figure like let’s see if it works and when it does you’re like that’s.

05:23.78
jim_phoenix
Um, yes.

05:39.19
Corine
So compelling right? So yeah, technology has come leaps and bounds from where it was even like fifteen years ago

05:44.77
jim_phoenix
That that is amazing I think fifteen years is about 1 of I started doing it to yeah what was the 1 thing that you’ve been using and thanks for going into the I was looking look this like oh my god I see the stick figures I’m so glad you brought that what I’m like yeah there’s like do you mero shapes that like it’s like this is a guy this is a.

05:56.73
Corine
Um.

06:02.87
jim_phoenix
And this is what it is my ah them is so useful before that been so useful before I really like I think that’s a shape I think that’s a light here light here I’m not really sure and now it’s like no dont Don Don done like got it and the speaking program now.

06:04.72
Corine
Right.

06:14.14
Corine
Oh the slf Cameras phenomenal.

06:21.29
jim_phoenix
Is there anything you want on your wish list. But the technology is just not quite. It’s not quite there yet.

06:28.67
Corine
Yeah, there’s a few things that I think we would like to. We’ve talked many times about you know wouldn’t it be great if certain things could also do blah right? And so I think with modern technology and you know.

06:32.51
Leanne Sallenback
That’s a great question.

06:34.85
Kelly Ireland
Um, yeah.

06:46.28
Corine
There’s this new lidar technology and there’s all these new kind of cameras and you kind of like spectrums of you know, development in the camera industry. So I think eventually I think we’re going to get more accurate and clearer kind of depictions of what we’re actually seeing.

06:48.77
jim_phoenix
Um, right.

06:57.94
Kelly Ireland
Her.

06:58.64
jim_phoenix
I think that’s I think that’s the future I think you’re right and for his history’s most haunted I we said Montreal and I believe you went to Newfoundland yes I’m not yes where was the coldest because you would the Montreal like the winter time.

07:10.77
Kelly Ireland
Yes, yes.

07:17.65
Kelly Ireland
Blah.

07:18.48
jim_phoenix
I Saw the edge I’m like oh my gosh I’m so sorry you went during the wintertime. No no was it really? oh boy. So sorry I apologize on Behalf of my continent. Both.

07:20.30
Leanne Sallenback
It was stole girl. Yeah, but yeah, those atlantic winds like I had those like hot hat.

07:20.72
Kelly Ireland
Yeah. Yeah Montreal and Bell Islands yeah Montreal and Bell Island land for both just off the chains cold.

07:28.42
Corine
Oh yeah, the Canadian locations.

07:36.13
Corine
After.

07:37.94
Leanne Sallenback
On like everywhere they like burnt my skin because I put them.

07:38.97
jim_phoenix
Ah sorry I left because I’m there with you like it like that’s exactly steadying for the metro like okay I can’t believe everything’s frozen here I can’t feel anything ice for it’s like you’re either burning by you’re burning yourself to keep warm. That’s basically what it is.

07:53.10
Kelly Ireland
We laughed we laughed so hard we were walking down the street and Leann picked the wrong boots for the day and oh my gosh. She’s just like shuffling along and.

07:54.57
Leanne Sallenback
Um, yeah.

07:54.81
Corine
Oh yeah I.

08:02.40
Corine
Put them.

08:04.42
Leanne Sallenback
So embarrassing month Montreal I I don’t walk in Montreal I shuffle because I have like grippy boots. Yeah.

08:06.57
jim_phoenix
Um.

08:09.00
jim_phoenix
So yes, oh that was my first time in Montreal as well. I’m like I see these things at other stores like little grips I’m like why would I want to buy it this I’m from a gun I don’t care action. It’s ice. It’s icy, whatever no, you need them because if you haven’t gonereal this trees are like straight up and down for a lot of them.

08:23.22
Kelly Ireland
Yeah.

08:23.53
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.

08:25.44
Corine
Um.

08:28.43
Kelly Ireland
A happiness.

08:28.86
jim_phoenix
And the rest are just like sheer ice like shears your ice none whatsoever whatsoever like ice gates or or your friend and the gripping things I’m so sorry I understand this and I get it. What was the.

08:29.36
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, and there was storm and there was no clearing of the sidewalks. So yeah.

08:33.41
Corine
Oh yeah.

08:42.76
Kelly Ireland
Um.

08:45.15
jim_phoenix
Most pleasant climate then what was the most pleasant comment. What was the most pleasant climate as in not just temperature wise but ghost wise without spoilers and stuff like that. Just like what was the most positive feeling.

08:55.37
Kelly Ireland
Oh Geez I’m going through the rolodax and he says.

08:57.43
Corine
Um, oh no for the one your head.

08:57.68
Leanne Sallenback
Well yeah, like San Antonio was like San Antonio’s beautiful like being able to experience that city like from like you know the riverwalk and all that stuff like San Antonio is pretty awesome and it was warm and.

09:00.30
jim_phoenix
I’m hitting up I’m hitting hard That’s right right.

09:08.80
jim_phoenix
No wow.

09:13.28
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, we did the ghosts of the alamo and it delivered like we were just in very like 3 or 4 different spaces that all were super active and you know we could wear running shoes or flipflopbs when we were investigating. Yeah.

09:28.26
jim_phoenix
All that like do a little skates around and the ghost of elm. Ah everyone thought those was Ozzie Osborne for the ghost of alamo turns out, it’s an actual ghost down ma actually happened for my metal fans like we have do as thing now if we’re going through this.

09:29.94
Kelly Ireland
Yeah.

09:31.57
Leanne Sallenback
No, but.

09:45.67
jim_phoenix
And you said there’s partsse that might have made you go. Okay, that’s it the end I know you guys sort of have that safe word ish I’m not saying what the safe word it is I don’t want like Jinks you guys. But if that would have happened could you walk me through is it just like ending and we just walk away from taping was ah you guys go back the second day or.

09:54.87
Kelly Ireland
What.

10:03.95
jim_phoenix
Is it just done if the safe where has been reached.

10:07.17
Kelly Ireland
We haven’t had to cross that bridge yet. Ah have we not not in the series at least it’s kind of like it’s yeah, it’s the the agreement is that we leave as soon as somebody feels. It’s too much or they’re afraid.

10:11.70
jim_phoenix
Let say Jingsu Guys mic so far.

10:12.16
Corine
Um.

10:12.62
Leanne Sallenback
We Well maybe they want to wait a little bit.

10:15.31
Corine
Yeah.

10:24.78
Kelly Ireland
If you ever feel fear. You need to get out so and then we reassess from there.

10:27.62
Corine
Yeah, yeah, you don’t want to put anyone at risk too right? like if it’s that if someone’s feeling that you know freaked out and that energy is that strong like we don’t know what it could do so we don’t want to put anybody even ourselves or the crew at risk. So you know it’s just like let’s.

10:27.90
jim_phoenix
That’s good. That is pretty good and I.

10:47.80
Corine
Take a step take a minute get out.

10:48.73
jim_phoenix
And and that’s respectable and that’s that’s what I like seeing about your programs is because you have the respectable. We I think I said this last time we won’t mention the ones who kind of like call the ghost out start young. Oh like what are you doing dear like really. First of all, they’re dead come on like give them a break at this point but you’ve been respectable and because of that I keep asking this I was just wondering because you just did his history’s most haunted on t and e by the way September Eighth which is a Friday otta what has this comic comic club.

11:08.87
Kelly Ireland
Nagen or.

11:23.32
jim_phoenix
Comic club wow comiccon and a comiccon 8 pm or apion redo that ten Pm Eastern and pacific perfect time because your show is on the teeny nationwide pre free preview event readings hard for me today I should I be.

11:40.82
Corine
Um, it.

11:42.21
jim_phoenix
Not via teacher. So as we’re checking this out I was just wondering if you have any things are like attachments anything that the ghost came with you anything that said, like any kind of like dreams afterwards did anything kind of get in your psyche afterwards.

11:59.13
Corine
I didn’t have anything personally afterwards this time. Um, but it was interesting that something came weeks before and kind of attached to me in a way that I’d never really experienced like that. So yeah, so check out Charleston’s episode and ah.

12:07.70
jim_phoenix
Um, oh really.

12:17.50
Corine
You’ll see what that’s all about yeah so I didn’t have anything after but it was an interesting one where I was getting stuff weeks before the episode and that that was new.

12:23.59
jim_phoenix
That that’s yeah, go for.

12:23.86
Kelly Ireland
Yeah, sorry I was gonna sayring cried in that episode and I’ve never seen I mean Lean’s lived with her whole life I don’t know if she’s ever even seen her cry so that was like that was the big one.

12:34.98
Corine
Um, here.

12:36.61
Leanne Sallenback
yeah yeah I had a couple dreams after the Newfoundland episode. Um, yeah, so there’s definitely like you’re you know at various times drawn to a location and drawn back drawn to like Karrene was.

12:39.98
jim_phoenix
Really.

12:49.43
Leanne Sallenback
So it’s really interesting like we’re learning as we do this too like what’s happening and what our abilities are saying and how we interpret them.

12:56.31
jim_phoenix
That that’s pretty interesting now for history’s most haunted you are going through these locations for how how long is a shoot. It’s a like a week. How long are you in location about a week but as I guess out on the Montreal one. Yeah so you’re going through these.

13:08.10
Leanne Sallenback
What five days yeah

13:09.24
Corine
Yeah, yeah, five six yeah

13:15.94
jim_phoenix
Have you ever thought I need to come back I need to especially if you have the things before and after I need to revisit No Cameras for history’s most haunted but I Just need to close her or some of that I’m seeing some yeses. Okay so good for me.

13:29.17
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.

13:32.70
Kelly Ireland
Um, for me, it’s it’s not well. Not exactly the specific locations that we went to but it’s more the area I feel like like when we visit a city like Montreal that’s when I think we all sort of agreed. We’d like to go back because we just got to touch a few places we got to experience a few places.

13:35.91
jim_phoenix
Right? oh.

13:50.60
Kelly Ireland
And there’s just so much more and every time we go to a place. There’s more people that show up and like tangible people who are like oh my gosh I had this experience and this is what you do and can you come and check this out and it’s like you only have so much time So Montreal is definitely a place that I in particular would like to go back to.

13:57.96
jim_phoenix
Um, right.

14:07.30
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, but.

14:08.88
jim_phoenix
Um, I think you hit it on it head where else where else.

14:12.20
Leanne Sallenback
For me, it’s it’s just that it’s Newfoundland because there’s something like supernatural about the place we were at like every single person we talked to on this island had a story had an experience and that is super rare to go somewhere where just like a living breathing.

14:12.33
Corine
I think I would oh yeah, go ahead.

14:28.65
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah.

14:31.45
Leanne Sallenback
You know reality. So yeah I would love to go back there.

14:35.99
Corine
I’d probably like to go back with you. But if not winter perhaps but yes, um for me I think honestly I’d go back to any of the locations like Kelly said everywhere you go, there’s just there’s so many people that told us like she said.

14:40.80
Kelly Ireland
Are.

14:41.88
Leanne Sallenback
Um, it.

14:46.41
jim_phoenix
Nice.

14:53.26
Corine
Have you checked at this place I have you checked out this place and you know you’re filming and you’re you’re on these locations and you don’t have tons of time to go explore the other places so it would be really neat to go back and check out some other places that we didn’t get a chance to see just due to time. Yeah.

15:06.29
jim_phoenix
Just dude. Yeah and that’s the thing it’s you are there for a Limitedminum amount of time and for every was every couple minutes of especially for a documentary like every couple of minutes you see on on error. It’s like hours and hours and hours and hours of real time and so I can I can sometimes see like you think about Sql. The history is most haunted in the summertime tomorrow.

15:29.25
Kelly Ireland
For trying to manifest by buying flip flops. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, somewhere warm would be nice.

15:29.75
Corine
Ah, wouldn’t I be a whole new.

15:30.70
Leanne Sallenback
Ah, yeah, yeah.

15:32.35
jim_phoenix
Yes, the flip flop door. We like that one.

15:38.90
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, that would be great.

15:39.57
Corine
Um, yeah.

15:39.84
jim_phoenix
Yeah, now we talk about history is most haunted which is on teeny again Friday September Eighth at 10 p M Eastern slash pacific on te during the channels nationwide free preview event. So if you’re like Jimbo right here and you’re like what’s cable. You can watch it as well see sometimes I can read. It’s like Fla now when you’re doing for history’s most haunted are you trying to I’m not saying you are but I’m asking. Are you trying to hope that something good happens something bad happens or just.

16:02.17
Leanne Sallenback
Um, yeah, nice.

16:02.59
Kelly Ireland
William.

16:18.17
jim_phoenix
Ah, you okay with sometimes like nothing. There’s nothing an okay response. Yeah.

16:20.30
Corine
Absolutely yeah, we’ve gone into places where honestly everywhere we go into we have like I don’t know but you guys like I have like very limited expectations like okay well I don’t know what’s going to happen. You don’t know what you’re walking into and you may have heard you know.

16:21.90
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.

16:33.90
jim_phoenix
Um, right.

16:35.27
Corine
Certain stories where people have told you things and we’ve talked to the witnesses who have had terrifying experiences. Um, but you know it’s about our experience so we go in and try to come in with you know, an open mind and just to see what we pick up because everybody experiences things so differently and so you know. Just find that sometimes there is nothing there and that’s okay, that just it doesn’t mean that there’s no spirit or ghost. There’s just at that moment. We didn’t connect with it right? and so you know investigating ethans could take way longer than just one night sometimes so yeah, definitely. It’s okay when you don’t get something.

16:58.99
jim_phoenix
Um, right? yes.

17:12.58
Corine
And we have oftentimes gotten not a walk that night or nothing that night but the next day it’s like crazy active again. So yeah, it just depends.

17:21.63
jim_phoenix
I like that it’s like a feeling out sometimes like the ghost or the entities are just kind of like are what are you here for and then it’s a slight and sometimes people are shy. You know entities as well. They can be shy as well. So that’s very great now if you want to say 1 thing.

17:31.99
Kelly Ireland
Ever.

17:33.48
Corine
Um, yeah.

17:41.39
jim_phoenix
Just 1 thing. What was your best scariest whatever moment happiest moment for history’s most haunted. What would it be and we’ll start clockwise on my screen which was going to be liana. Which when what was the 1 thing you want to take away from this whole entire series. Yeah.

18:00.82
Leanne Sallenback
Um, if I could just say 1 thing. Um honesty like stepping foot onto our first location in San Antonio Texas it was just the reality of it like I’ll never forget that moment and just like starting the journey there.

18:14.33
jim_phoenix
Um, no.

18:17.59
Leanne Sallenback
And like thinking about like our first location in Texas to our last location in Newfoundland and everything in between I know this is not 1 thing but I’m spiraling. Um, it’s some just stepping into that like first part of Texas I think is my like big aha moment like we’re doing this? yeah like.

18:23.91
jim_phoenix
No, it’s good.

18:27.52
Kelly Ireland
Um.

18:34.35
jim_phoenix
That’s awesome. Yeah I’m smiling because I’m like you started out with a nice little warmish location like as time goes on. Let’s go to the colder places last go to their last Kelly how about you.

18:38.91
Kelly Ireland
Oh yeah.

18:47.70
Leanne Sallenback
Um, yeah.

18:47.40
Kelly Ireland
Can you see the question again. Leann Leann spiraled me off a little bit. No ski. Yeah well.

18:50.46
Leanne Sallenback
There.

18:51.85
jim_phoenix
This script just took the 1 thing the 1 take away you got positive negative spooky good stuff. What was the 1 thing you took away from history most haunted.

19:02.66
Kelly Ireland
Um, yeah for sure. Um, besides the show itself and and investigating um for me, it’s in each location. The connection between the 3 of us and our crew that we formed that is so special. We’ve taken away that like our c our dop.

19:07.62
jim_phoenix
Private.

19:16.12
jim_phoenix
Cool.

19:20.51
Kelly Ireland
We have a bond with him. We call ourselves the fab for just him experiencing it and he experiences things in each location and it doesn’t always make it on but he’s experiencing things and gives me like excited Goosebus now because it’s like forming this bond with our team. It’s.

19:24.71
jim_phoenix
He’s.

19:37.26
Kelly Ireland
It’s just more than the 3 of us you know there’s people that you don’t get to see and and that’s super special for me.

19:43.52
jim_phoenix
That’s amazing I Always like the behind this behind the scenes just um, break my own rule is there behind the scenes would you ever think doing behind the scenes little bit.

19:51.63
Leanne Sallenback
There There’s going to be um, a micro site with a ton of stuff. So yeah, yeah.

19:52.50
Kelly Ireland
Oh with that big one.

19:52.94
Corine
Oh yeah.

19:57.24
jim_phoenix
Nice, perfect now, great last but not least the 1 thing for you. The 1 thing stood out for you.

19:58.13
Corine
Yeah, so.

20:04.55
Corine
And um, yeah, other than the show itself like everyone said I think for me this has been a I don’t know it’s been mind-blowing because I think for the first time since I was three years old I’m being my authentic self everywhere and so you know I’ve kept my abilities quiet for. Most of my life and so I think the Charleston episode was one that really resonated with me because it was just like I was that little kid going is this real again. Oh my god you know what’s happening and then all of a sudden when things clicked I was like an emotional rack because I’m like this is real like.

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jim_phoenix
Nice.

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Corine
It was just so validating to me too. So it’s my own personal growth and I think that um, history’s most haunted as allowing the 3 of us to develop our skills and to to test what we can get and help people both you know hear and in spirit form because ghost for people too right? So yeah I think it’s just it’s just really.

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jim_phoenix
Right? absolutely.

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Corine
Amazing to me that I’m at this point and being who I truly am So yeah, but.

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jim_phoenix
I love that. That’s a perfect answer. That’s ah I’ve got no no further questions your honor That’s awesome i. Love it. That’s being who you are I think that’s so freeing and that’s what I love about your show. History’s most haunted on t and e again Friday September Eighth at 10PMSlash. pacific and East or eastern pacific on their nationwide free preview of ven on t I love it. Thank you very much for your time once again I’m hooked I’ll be up watching every fs episode. You know me and me doing some reviews. Thank you so much everyone bye everyone.

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Leanne Sallenback
Awesome! thanks.

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Corine
Thank you for having us.

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Kelly Ireland
Thank you, Thank you for having us.

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jim_phoenix
Hey.

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Goodbye for Now, a Short Story by Jennifer Weigel

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What if ours weren’t the only reality? What if the past paths converged, if those moments that led to our current circumstances got tangled together with their alternates and we found ourselves caught up in the threads?


Marla returned home after the funeral and wake. She drew the key in the lock and opened the door slowly, the looming dread of coming back to an empty house finally sinking in. Everyone else had gone home with their loved ones. They had all said, “goodbye,” and moved along.

Her daughter Misty and son-in-law Joel had caught a flight to Springfield so he could be at work the next day for the big meeting. Her brother Darcy was on his way back to Montreal. Emmett and Ruth were at home next door, probably washing dishes from the big meal they had helped to provide afterward, seeing as their kitchen light was on. Marla remembered there being food but couldn’t recall what exactly as she hadn’t felt like eating. Sandwiches probably… she’d have to thank them later.

Marla had felt supported up until she turned the key in the lock after the services, but then the realization sank deep in her throat like acid reflux, hanging heavy on her heart – everyone else had other lives to return to except for her. She sighed and stepped through the threshold onto the outdated beige linoleum tile and the braided rag rug that stretched across it. She closed the door behind herself and sighed again. She wiped her shoes reflexively on the mat before just kicking them off to land in a haphazard heap in the entryway.

The still silence of the house enveloped her, its oppressive emptiness palpable – she could feel it on her skin, taste it on her tongue. It was bitter. She sighed and walked purposefully to the living room, the large rust-orange sofa waiting to greet her. She flopped into its empty embrace, dropping her purse at her side as she did so.

A familiar, husky voice greeted her from deeper within the large, empty house. “Where have you been?”

Marla looked up and glanced around. Her husband Frank was standing in the doorway to the kitchen, drying a bowl. Marla gasped, her hand shooting to her mouth. Her clutched appendage took on a life of its own, slowly relinquishing itself of her gaping jaw and extending a first finger to point at the specter.

“Frank?” she spoke hesitantly.

“Yeah,” the man replied, holding the now-dry bowl nestled in the faded blue-and-white-checkered kitchen towel in both hands. “Who else would you expect?”

“But you’re dead,” Marla spat, the words falling limply from her mouth of their own accord.

The 66-year old man looked around confusedly and turned to face Marla, his silver hair sparkling in the light from the kitchen, illuminated from behind like a halo. “What are you talking about? I’m just here washing up after lunch. You were gone so I made myself some soup. Where have you been?”

“No, I just got home from your funeral,” Marla spoke quietly. “You are dead. After the boating accident… You drowned. I went along to the hospital – they pronounced you dead on arrival.”

“I don’t know what you’re talking about,” Frank said. “What boating accident?”

“The sailboat… You were going to take me out,” Marla coughed, her brown eyes glossed over with tears.

“We don’t own a sailboat,” Frank said bluntly. “Sure, I’d thought about it – it seems like a cool retirement hobby – but it’s just too expensive. We’ve talked about this, we can’t afford it.”

Marla glanced out the bay window towards the driveway where the small sailboat sat on its trailer, its orange hull reminiscent of the Florida citrus industry, and also of the life jacket Frank should have been wearing when he’d been pulled under. Marla cringed and turned back toward the kitchen. She sighed and spoke again, “But the boat’s out front. The guys at the marina helped to bring it back… after you… drowned.”

Frank had retreated to the kitchen to put away the bowl. Marla followed. She stood in the doorway and studied the man intently. He was unmistakably her husband, there was no denying it even despite her having just witnessed his waxen lifeless body in the coffin at the wake before the burial, though this Frank was a slight bit more overweight than she remembered.

“Well, that’s not possible. Because I’m still here,” Frank grumbled. He turned to face her, his blue eyes edged with worry. “There now, it was probably just a dream. You knew I wanted a boat and your anxiety just formulated the worst-case scenario…”

“See for yourself,” Marla said, her voice lilting with every syllable.

Frank strode into the living room and stared out the bay window. The driveway was vacant save for some bits of Spanish moss strewn over the concrete from the neighboring live oak tree. He turned towards his wife.

“But there’s no boat,” he sighed. “You must have had a bad dream. Did you fall asleep in the car in the garage again?” Concern was written all over his face, deepening every crease and wrinkle. “Is that where you were? The garage?”

Marla glanced again at the boat, plain as day, and turned to face Frank. Her voice grew stubborn. “It’s right here. How can you miss it?” she said, pointing at the orange behemoth.

“Honey, there’s nothing there,” Frank exclaimed, exasperation creeping into his voice.

Marla huffed and strode to the entryway, gathering her shoes from where they waited in their haphazard heap alongside the braided rag run on the worn linoleum floor. She marched out the door as Frank took vigil in its open frame, still staring at her. She stomped out to the boat and slapped her hand on the fiberglass surface with a resounding smack. The boat was warm to the touch, having baked in the Florida sun. She turned back towards the front door.

“See!” she bellowed.

The door stood open, empty. No one was there, watching. Marla sighed again and walked back inside. The vacant house once again enveloped her in its oppressive emptiness. Frank was nowhere to be found.

Sailboat drawing in reverse by Jennifer Weigel
Sailboat drawing in reverse by Jennifer Weigel

So I guess it’s goodbye for now. Feel free to check out more of Jennifer Weigel’s work here on Haunted MTL or here on her website.

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Nightmarish Nature: Just Jellies

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Today on Nightmarish Nature we’re gonna revisit The Blob and jiggle our way to terror. Why? ‘Cause we’re just jellies – looking at those gelatinous denizens of the deep, as well as some snot-like land-bound monstrosities, and wishing we could ooze on down for some snoozy booze schmoozing action. Or something.

Ooze on in for some booze schmoozin' action
Ooze on in for some booze schmoozin’ action

Honestly, I don’t know what exactly it is that jellyfish and slime molds do but whatever it is they do it well, which is why they’re still around despite being among the more ancient organism templates still in common use.

Jellyfish are on the rise.

Yeah, yeah, some species like moon jellies will hang out in huge blooms near the surface feeding, but that’s not what I meant. Jellyfish populations are up. They’re honing in on the open over-fished ocean and making themselves at home. Again.

And, although this makes the sea turtles happy since jellies are a favorite food staple of theirs, not much else is excited about the development. Except for those fish that like to hide out inside of their bells, assuming they don’t accidentally get eaten hanging out in there. But that’s a risk you gotta take when you’re trying to escape predation by surrounding yourself in a bubble of danger that itself wants to eat you. Be eaten or be eaten. Oh, wait…

Fish hiding in jellyfish bell
In hiding…

So what makes jellies so scary?

Jellyfish pack some mighty venom. Despite obvious differences in mobility, they are related to anemones and corals. But not the Man o’ War which looks similar but is actually a community of microorganisms that function together as a whole, not one creature. Not that it matters when you’re on the wrong end of a nematocyst, really. Because regardless what it’s attached to, that stings.

Box jellies are among the most venomous creatures in the world and can move of their own accord rather than just drifting about like many smaller jellyfish do. And even if they aren’t deadly, the venom from many jellyfish species will cause blisters and lesions that can take a long time to heal. So even if they do resemble free-floating plastic grocery bags, you’d do best to steer clear. Because those are some dangerous curves.

Jellies in bloom
Jellies in bloom

But what does this have to do with slime molds?

Absolutely nothing. I honestly don’t know enough about jellyfish or slime molds to devote the whole of a Nightmarish Nature segment to either, so they had to share. Essentially, this bit is what happened when I decided to toast a bagel before coming up with something to write about and spent a tad too much time in contemplation of my breakfast. I guess we’re lucky I didn’t have any cream cheese or clotted cream…

Jellies breakfast of champions
Jellies breakfast of champions

Oh, and also thinking about gelatinous cubes and oozes in the role-playing game sense – because those sort of seem like a weird hybrid between jellies and slime molds, as does The Blob. Any of those amoeba influenced creatures are horrific by their very nature – they don’t even need to be souped up, just ask anyone who’s had dysentery.

And one of the most interesting thing about slime molds is that they can take the shortest path to food even when confronted with very complex barriers. They are maze masterminds and would give the Minotaur more than a run for his money, especially if he had or was food. They have even proven capable of determining the most efficient paths for water lines or railways in metropolitan regions, which is kind of crazy when you really think about it. Check it out in Scientific American here. So, if we assume that this is essentially the model upon which The Blob was built, then it’s kind of a miracle anything got away. And slime molds are coming under closer scrutiny and study as alternative means of creating computer components are being explored.

Jellies are the Wave of the Future.

We are learning that there may be a myriad of uses for jellyfish from foodstuffs to cosmetic products as we rethink how we interact with them. They are even proving useful in cleaning up plastic pollution. I don’t know how I feel about the foodstuff angle for all that they’ve been a part of various recipes for a long time. From what I’ve seen of the jellyfish cookbook recipes, they just don’t look that appealing. But then again I hate boba with a passion, so I’m probably not the best candidate to consider the possibility.

So it seems that jellies are kind of the wave of the future as we find that they can help solve our problems. That’s pretty impressive for some brainless millions of years old critter condiments. Past – present – perpetuity! Who knows what else we’d have found if evolution hadn’t cleaned out the fridge every so often?

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Identical: Yes.  The Same: No – Exploring the World of AI Reconstructions in Doctor Who

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The second half of 2024 was a bit of slow for Doctor Who news.  Ncuti Gatwa’s first season finished in June, and the Christmas special was months away.  Comics and audio plays continued, and a Blu-Ray set of Season 25 was released – but that was all. 

However, what was new and exciting was a spate of unofficial recreations of missing Doctor Who stories from the sixties.  Re-animations of missing stories have occurred previously, both officially by the BBC and unofficially by fans. However, animation production time means it’s rare to have more than a few episodes a year.  However within the space of six months, forty-four recreated episodes were released, with the promise of more to come. 

Ian Levine - Interviewed for the Lost in Time Documentary

The reason how so many stories have been released so quickly is artificial intelligence (AI). These reconstructions are Generative AI, funded by professional songwriter, film producer, and fan, Ian Levine.  This decision to make Doctor Who AI Reconstructions, to put it mildly, has been controversial online. 

But is it worth it, in order to having otherwise missing stories returned to us?  I’ve examined many of these Doctor Who AI reconstructions, and the discourse around them, to find out.

In Brief – Missing Episodes

A decent proportion of Doctor Who’s earliest years shockingly does not exist anymore.  Doctor Who is one of the BBC’s biggest revenue raisers, and most famous show around the world.  However it was not always the case. 

When Doctor Who first began in 1963, the idea of keeping media was not really considered.  Home video did not exist, and would not exist for two decades.  Repeats were rare, due to the costs at the time to store old material and pay people involved in them.  Also, old film presented a fire hazard.  So it was often disposed of. 

Still from Doctor Who - Feast of Steven, an episode entirely lost from BBC Archives

Despite this, Doctor Who is fairly lucky compared to other series.  Firstly, fans at the time recorded the audio of each story. This means even the first ever Christmas Special – “A Feast of Stephen,” never broadcast internationally or repeated, still exists as an audio. 

Doctor Who is also lucky because of only six seasons are not complete. In addition, of those six seasons, only half are missing only episodes from one or two stories.  This allows us to get a feel for the early years of Doctor Who in a way fans of other series, like “Quatermass” and “The Avengers” aren’t able to.  And part of the reason most of these early seasons survive is due to Ian Levine.

Who is Ian Levine?

Ian Levine professionally is a songwriter and DJ.  He has written and produced records connected to such bands as Take That, Pet Shop Boys, Bananarama and Bucks Fizz. His total sales exceed 40 million records. 

He is also well known as a prominent Doctor Who fan.  There are many prominent Doctor Who fans. The series from 2004 onwards has been largely made by prominent Doctor Who fans of the 70’s and 80’s.  Many of these fans contribute to Doctor Who in official ways.  For instance, many older fans have written books, or audio plays.  All three showrunners for the modern series would be considered prominent fans from the nineties.  For Ian Levine, his main contribution is seeking to find and restore missing episodes of Doctor Who.

This work started in 1978 where Levine reportedly requested the permanent halting of old episodes of Doctor Who.  At the time the idea of home video was being considered, leading to more reasons to keep old film.  Levine also claimed to have rescued the first ever Dalek story from being sent into a furnace. Following this, he began purchasing private copies of the remaining stories, and attempting to return them to the BBC. 

Album cover for charity single "Doctor In Distress"

He also connected with the Doctor Who Production Team of the eighties in other ways.  This included composing the theme tune for the spin-off series “K-9 and Company”, and the protest/charity album “Doctor In Distress.” His was also consulted about continuity during seasons eighteen to twenty-two. 

However, he also gained a notorious reputation as obsessive in an unappealing way.  During the 1985 Doctor Who hiatus, Levine was encouraged by Producer Jon Nathan-Turner to use protest the decision.  Levine argued against the decision on television, and smashed his television with a hammer, and inviting newspapers to photograph it. 

So he is fan who has both done great things, but also sought notoriety and negative attention. 

Animated reconstruction of "Mission to the Unknown"

More recently, Levene has worked with animating missing or incomplete episodes. This started in 2010 with “Mission to the Unknown.” This was not allowed to be shared or sold due to it being made without BBC authorization.  In 2013, Ian hired an animated reconstruction of the unfinished story “Shada.” This version used pre-existing footage and new audio to create a finished product he hoped could be licensed.  However, the BBC chose not to. Instead they made their own animated version that was released four years later.

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Doctor Who: Shada
  • Join the Doctor (Tom Baker), Romana (Lalla Ward), and K-9 (voiced by David Brierley) as a visit to a Time Lord living incognito on Earth leads to a desperate race to a distant prison planet
  • A BBC strike halted filming of this never-broadcast Baker six-episode serial written by “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” author Douglas Adams
  • Christopher Neame, Victoria Burgoyne co-star

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Subsequently, Levine made comments regarding Jodie Whittaker as the first female Doctor which were deemed by many to be sexist.  Levine responded by publicly quitting the fandom, though later created his own private Doctor Who Facebook group.

This group has now become the location where his AI recreations he has funded and received donations for are shared.

The Doctor Who AI Reconstructions – How to Access

The Facebook Page: “Ian Levine’s Facebook Group” requires an agreement to two questions to join.  Firstly, you must agree to respect the right to criticize Jodie Whittaker. Secondly, you must recognise this is Ian Levine’s group for sharing his opinions on Doctor Who.  Agree to all this, and you’re allowed in.

A screenshot from the Doctor Who AI reconstruction of The Massacre

Inside the group, Levine has shared around twenty videos. This includesall of “The Dalek Masterplan,” “The Massacre,” and “The Savages.” However for the remainder, you must make a donation of fifty pounds, to become a contributor to the series. 

Once your donation is confirmed, you are authorized to join the separate contributors group, for contributors only.  This is where all the current videos being made are released.

Except…. None of these videos are unavailable privately.  Ian Levine has placed them all on Youtube.  They are unlisted, so they cannot turn up in either a Google or YouTube search. However, if you have a direct link or URL to them, they are accessible to everyone.  Unlike other systems like Patreon which restrict content to only certain subscribers, nothing stops these links being shared elsewhere.

And of course, these links are shared.  In response, Levine has issued threats and warnings against other Facebook groups and leakers trying to destroy his vision.  In his group, people support him and join in denouncing those who criticize his work or mock it.  People outside the group in response denounce Ian Levine and his supporters. 

One thing I hate about internet culture is the push for tribalism. This is the idea we are joined in a selective tribe and must fight the rivals to connect.  Over time the views become more strict in supporting your own tribe, and rejecting the opposition, and the middle ground is lost.

In the case of Ian Levine’s group, this is best shown by the view of alternative animations of missing Doctor Who stories.  All of these are seen as not as good as Levine’s AI reconstructions. Levine’s reconstructions are seen as the only correct way Doctor Who is meant to be. 

Initially Ian Levine’s AI project aimed to complete the ten missing stories not completed by the BBC. The initial project recognised the slow time it took to animate missing stories, and focused on stories that were difficult and costly to animate with people. Very soon after, however, Levine denounced many of the prior animations as “Silly Scooby Doo Cartoons.” The project was quickly extended to include stories previously animated by the BBC.  Levine’s argument appears to be Levine’s objections to story changes animation had included. These included adding a surprise image of the Master in “Fury from the Deep”, prior to his debut appearance.  Given Levine’s history of making things for the BBC, with the hope the BBC would license them, there have been rumours Levine initially was hoping the BBC would license some of his AI recreations, which has not come to pass. 

Levine presents his animations as the most authentic way to view the missing episodes. Therefore appreciation of official animated reconstructions are not allowed.  A poster saying they enjoyed the animated version of “The Celestial Toymaker,” was informed by Levine tht anyone who enjoyed the animation was unwelcome.  Common responses of new animations being announced are people accusing the BBC of ruining another story.  When Levine had a fault pointed out in one of his stories by Frazer Hines, who played the second Doctor’s companion, Jamie, Levine’s first response was to accept that the animation had limitations, but insisted it was still better than any animation the BBC has made.  Most of all, posters all reinforce the message that AI reconstructions are the true version of the lost stories and the BBC are fools for not paying for them.

Doctor Who – The Celestial Toymaker [DVD]
  • The Celestial Toymaker sees the Doctor and his companions separated when they come up against the Toymaker
  • While the Doctor plays the Trilogic Game, Steven and Dodo are forced to play their own seemingly childish, but ultimately dangerous games, with the aim of being reunited and getting back to the TARDIS
  • Who will be the first to make a false move in this battle of wits, and will the TARDIS ever escape the Toymaker’s snare Fans of Doctor Who have long lamented the loss of the original 1966 master recordings of all except one of The Celestial Toymaker

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In response to this, or provoking this, depending on your point of you, external Facebook groups and YouTube channels are highly critical of the AI reconstructions.  Some videos see them as threats, preventing the BBC from every investing in animation involving real people.  Some hav dismissed the project as a scam.

So with such strong opinions on both sides, it’s time to actually watch them.

The AI Reconstructions

Screenshot from the AI Reconstruction of The Dalek Masterplan

My first response on watching is they’re not that bad, but they’re not that good.  Animation varies wildly in quality from story to story, making it hard to tell an overall trend towards or away from quality.  However there are some good examples of how to recreate a story.  “The Massacre” and “The Dalek Masterplan” for instance are incredible to watch.  “The Savages” on the other hand is laughingly bad. 

I chose to mostly focus on the stories not yet officially animated, so as to judge these stories by their own merit rather than compare to other animated versions of the same stories.  However, it’s interesting the similarities that occur between the official animations and AI reconstructions.  Non human characters (Particularly Daleks) look and move great, but people largely do not. 

Animating People

Across most forms of Missing episode recovery, whether AI or human drawn, the difficulty is always animating people to show emotions and movement.  Many of the official BBC animations often leave characters looking like stick figures bobbing up and down. 

However one of the key things the official reconstructions provide is consistency.  A human being develops a pre-existing model for characters, and because of this, these characters stay consistent over time.  

AI on the other hand appears to forget things, or lose focus unless properly guided.  People’s faces can change dramatically from shot to shot to the point, as in “The Savages” characters can be unrecognizable.  This means, unlike with official animations, I often had to follow a story summary to figure out what was going on. 

AI also forgets smaller things that make people seem human.  In “The Highlanders” for instance the Doctor’s companion Polly does not blink for most of episode one, despite being in shot.  This is a small detail, but throws the story into the uncanny valley – characters involve look like people but they feel wrong based on how they act. 

William Hartnell as the Abbot of Amboise in the Doctor Who AI Reconstruction of "The Massacre"

Movement is a struggle for all reconstructions because human movement is difficult to animate.  Once again, “The Massacre” demonstrates small examples of movement than seem fluid, particularly in the first episode.  “The Savages” on the other hand has main characters seemingly to perform scissor jump spread legged when the script call on them to walk. 

How the animation occurs

William Hartnell's farewell for Susan - frequently used as a source clip for reconstructions

Having watched many of these animations, some of means AI generated these reconstructions became clearer.  A lot of these animations, especially some of the later ones, do not actually generate much new material, instead using existing material in different ways.  The First Doctor saying goodbye to Susan in the TARDIS, from Episode 6 of the Dalek Invasion of Earth, for instance is frequently re-used. This scene is redubbed multiple times in the reconstructions, when a missing story needs a scene of William Hartnell standing alone in the TARDIS.

Another method is using the telesnaps, and slightly animating the mouth and face.  This creates a sense of fluidity and movement, but a very limited one.  This is particularly noticeable in the Space Pirates. The resconstructions rely on switching between static photos of one cast member with mouths moving.  On the one hand, this is no worse than the telesnaps, but the telesnaps were aware of their limitations, so often would use narration or subtitles to fill the gaps.  However these reconstructions are presented as the most life like renditions of the missing episodes. As the original story did not have subtitles or narration, therefore, they are not allowed. As a result the story is incomprehensible. 

Benefit – it exists

But despite the complaints, there is a significant benefit in these reconstructions.  And that’s the fact that they exist. 

Currently nine missing stories have not been officially animated by the BBC.  I would love for all missing stories to be animated. However, the reality is most of the stories remaining might be too costly to animate. 

Of the nine stories, six are pure historicals – stories with no science fiction elements apart from the TARDIS and its crew.  These stories tended to have a larger number of human characters than stories with monsters, and a human being with their range of emotions is harder to animate than a Dalek. 

Historicals also tend to have more detailed and complex scene change. A story in the future can replicate cold, grey corridors throughout a space colony. Historicals however must recreate significant locations in the world at particular times in history. Having to recreate 15th century France, for instance, is made up of multiple distinct locations. This makes historical stories more time consuming and therefore costly to animate.  Therefore, despite stories being reanimated for almost twenty years now, the total number of historical episodes animated have been two – both missing episodes of the Reign of Terror.

For the remaining three stories, the limited human cast and isolated space station locations makes Wheel in Space relatively simple to animate.  The Space Pirates, may also be animated as the story focusing mostly on space ships should make some aspects of the design easier to manage.

That just leaves The Dalek Masterplan¸ a massive twelve episode story, with a one episode prequel, where the Daleks chase the Doctor throughout time and space.  The cast is huge, and while it is not a historical, the story would require animated sets of ancient Egypt during the building of the pyramids.  None of this would be easy to do on the current BBC animation budget. 

Therefore, it appears of the remaining nine missing stories, only two are highly likely to be animated. 

And this is where AI can play a role.  As AI does not rely much people, it means the costs to recreate a story like the Dalek Masterplan is significantly easier and cheaper than hiring a production studio to make it.  While the end result is not as good as a professionally animated episode, for stories where hiring professional animations is not feasible, this is one way for people to observe a version of a story we otherwise cannot access. 

Ultimately the frustrating thing about these reconstructions is they’re not allowed to be what they are.  If they were simply an attempt to make otherwise lost stories more accessible, without any pretention or idea of superiority they would be fine.  There are no shortages of fan made reconstructions, which vary in quality, but are all warmly received because they don’t pretend to be more than fan made animations. They are no better or worse than any other reconstructions.

If Levine’s reconstructions were presented with the same humbleness, the response would be more positive.  If Leveine would present it as a project, and be accepting of others not needing to accpet them, there would be less retaliation online. But they aren’t presented as a fun way to view a loss episode. The reconstructions are presented as the only correct way to view the stories, superior than any other effort.  In fact, he considers the stories no longer lost due to his AI reconstructions.

But by doing so, he puts the reconstructions on a pedestal of perfection.  But they aren’t perfect, not by a long shot. By Leveine presenting these as perfect, he ultimately encourages people to notice how they are lacking by comparing to perfection.  In comparison, more humble attempts of reconstruction, by presenting themselves as not the best, encourage people to notice what they do right.

So, try to enjoy the reconstructions for what they are.  Some are surprisingly good – especially The Dalek Masterplan and The Massacre, and it’s a chance to see stories animated that you may not get to see animated elsewhere.  But try to filter out all the rhetoric about how amazing and perfect they should be, and just enjoy them as they are.

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