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History’s Most Haunted comes a rockin’ as another hit for T+E and we have the goods, the lowdown, if you will, on the inner workings of this new hit show. Join the History’s Most Haunted cast (remember them from the Gold Rush days?!) of Corine Carey, Leanne Sallenback, and Kelly Ireland as they come back to sit down with Jim and give another amazing (and spine tingling) interview.

Hear about the spookiest of the spookies (an electro Ouija!), the coldest of the cold (Montreal and the sheer ice-walks?!), and the uhhh safety wordest of the safety words (a place so deep with ghostly activity it almost conjured up the safe word!). All this and more on the next what’s Kraken!


(Hey! Don’t forget to tune in Friday 8 September at 10pm ET/PT during the FREEEEEEEEEE preview event on T+E!)

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Follow Corine Carey, Leanne Sallenback and Kelly Ireland as they investigate hauntings in iconic world-famous locations including Montreal, Newfoundland, Salem, New Orleans, Charleston and San Antonio

History’s Most Haunted premieres Friday, September 8 at 10 p.m. ET/PT on T+E during the channel’s nationwide free preview event, running September 4 to November 5 T+E Channel history’s most haunted

Auto-transcripts for the History’s Most Haunted Interview (YYMV on accuracy!)

00:00.00
jim_phoenix
Hey, everyone Jim Phoenix here and boy am I excited to be back of what’s crack and that’s right, our awesome super secret interview show. That’s off of ya hiatus and we’re launching in style and style. We’ve got none other than t and es. History’s most haunted show is brand new. That’s brand new by the way if you’ve got everything to do us September Eighth at 10 p M Eastern pacific on t and e free preview. Check it out, history’s most haunted is going to be super nova big. We’ve got coreine say hi. We’ve got we and say hello or hi what everyone really.

00:30.67
Corine
Um, hello.

00:33.83
Leanne Sallenback
Hey guys.

00:37.18
jim_phoenix
Go and Kelly say what that area if you hear their voices and you see their faces like boy they look familiar. That’s because they were doing a gold rush. Did you guys find gold. First of all, how was your gold rushing going. Did you find the gold.

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00:37.53
Kelly Ireland
Hey.

00:51.81
Leanne Sallenback
Ah.

00:53.47
jim_phoenix
This is how we’re doing are you buying Teeny Now that’s what it is.

00:55.13
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, there was no time for pan and gold. You know.

01:00.69
jim_phoenix
There’s no time for but no time for love Dr. Jones absolutely so this new one history’s most haunted I know you like the roadships because you talked about this last time right. Is this a continuation from the road trip. Let’s see where the we have the most haunted places in Canada.

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01:20.17
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, it’s um, an epic continuation of that because we went all over North America to some of the most haunted historical locations so we definitely had to jump on some planes to get to where we wanted to go but it was. Ah, great continuation of haunted gold rush but in a very like bigger scope.

01:41.81
jim_phoenix
I think that I’ve seen the previews and I do appreciate the ah advance and yes bigger scope. That’s exactly yet now Kelly and correne I want to know if you can go anywhere where would you go for haunting if you could haunt something Where would you go for haunting if you want to hunt some place of all places you’ve been because just you’ve been talking to the ghost you seen the ghost. You’ve been all over and see all these cool places. What place are you like you know I really should ha Hawaii I surely should want like. Maybe even a history’s most haunted from the beyond?

01:59.57
Corine
But like if I wanted to to haunt them. But.

01:59.67
Kelly Ireland
If I could find.

02:01.61
Leanne Sallenback
Um, the.

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02:11.80
Kelly Ireland
So I’ve already told my family I can haunt them so that’s one but also maybe like a really cool beach.

02:12.10
Leanne Sallenback
But.

02:17.63
jim_phoenix
So beaches are great beaches.

02:20.77
Leanne Sallenback
But.

02:22.10
Corine
Um I think for me would be anything like anything in Europe or historical castles or something where people are expecting to get scared I would love to help with that. Yeah.

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02:30.86
jim_phoenix
Oh that is brilliant. It’ll be like to dungeon and Dragons Castle group I’m like oh I’m real ghostal that’ll be so cool. Yeah, where would you want to go where would you want to go if you’re hunting anywhere in history’s most haunted

02:37.82
Corine
For me.

02:42.24
Leanne Sallenback
Um, my husband I agree with Kelly I’m definitely on him and probably some of those like ancient sites right? like just hang out at the pyramids hang out a match be to do it.

02:50.87
jim_phoenix
Oh that is a brilliant brilliant plan to man. These are all great places Now What was the best place you’ve seen ghosts this tour with was the most active active place that makes sense the one that’s just like lit up all the spirit cameras and. All those things.

03:10.88
Kelly Ireland
They were all wild. Um, the last one that we end on Bell Islands was like that was the only place we’ve ever thought. Maybe we couldn’t do an investigation because it was a lot especially for Karne. Yeah, yeah.

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03:23.38
Corine
The.

03:27.60
Kelly Ireland
For me that was I think the biggest 1

03:30.34
Corine
Yeah Bell Island surprised me I was um I don’t normally get scared like that feeling where you know you shouldn’t be there get out and yeah, definitely no spoilers but in Bell Island top to watch because it was touch and go if you were going to continue on that one for a bit.

03:30.50
jim_phoenix
Um, okay.

03:36.84
jim_phoenix
Yes.

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03:45.23
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, and even in Montreal like we went to Montreal as well. And yeah, definitely yeah, there’s some moments in that episode too. Where yeah like the gear you can’t deny what’s happening.

03:47.16
jim_phoenix
Um, that’s awesome leon. How about yeah.

03:53.77
Corine
Okay.

03:54.31
jim_phoenix
That’s right, you did.

03:56.19
Kelly Ireland
Um, get on.

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04:03.33
jim_phoenix
It’s everything just fell off my thing as you said Montreal haunting from history’s most haunted. I’m like okay calm down ghost. So weirdly enough they ah the MTL in haunted Mtl stood for Montreal for longest time and I started out ghost hunting in some of the places you were I’m like oh my god. And so I was comparing noes mic. Yes, that’s a very that’s ah, that’s another place I won’t say where but there are things and techniques can you go in a little bit about the technology because it’s gone a long way since my day of the the you know recording high is anyone there and then listening back in like 12 hours later like okay, no.

04:35.58
Corine
Um.

04:39.28
jim_phoenix
But now you have like the ouija board with the the the the word board. The am I getting this right there like am I making stuff up now. Oh.

04:45.10
Corine
Um, know yeah, the obellu. Yeah, not only you do? Um, yeah no I would agree like when we when I was you know in my late teens early 20 s it was like a recorder no ouija board I totally kind of like the pendulum or whatever.

04:56.85
jim_phoenix

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05:00.34
Corine
But yeah, we’ve come a long way and I think technology itself has come a long way and so now we use things like the ovilu we’re looking at you know the rampods that detect electromagnetic energy and frequency like energetic changes in a space. You know they’re using Xbox kind of like connect. We technology to map in stick figures using like.

05:09.35
jim_phoenix
Right.

05:20.28
Corine
Advanced technology to see spirits mapping in in a space where you know like for myself when I started buying this equipment years ago. You know it was almost for validation for me like okay well I’m seeing something and if this is supposed to show a stick figure like let’s see if it works and when it does you’re like that’s.

05:23.78
jim_phoenix
Um, yes.

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05:39.19
Corine
So compelling right? So yeah, technology has come leaps and bounds from where it was even like fifteen years ago

05:44.77
jim_phoenix
That that is amazing I think fifteen years is about 1 of I started doing it to yeah what was the 1 thing that you’ve been using and thanks for going into the I was looking look this like oh my god I see the stick figures I’m so glad you brought that what I’m like yeah there’s like do you mero shapes that like it’s like this is a guy this is a.

05:56.73
Corine
Um.

06:02.87
jim_phoenix
And this is what it is my ah them is so useful before that been so useful before I really like I think that’s a shape I think that’s a light here light here I’m not really sure and now it’s like no dont Don Don done like got it and the speaking program now.

06:04.72
Corine
Right.

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06:14.14
Corine
Oh the slf Cameras phenomenal.

06:21.29
jim_phoenix
Is there anything you want on your wish list. But the technology is just not quite. It’s not quite there yet.

06:28.67
Corine
Yeah, there’s a few things that I think we would like to. We’ve talked many times about you know wouldn’t it be great if certain things could also do blah right? And so I think with modern technology and you know.

06:32.51
Leanne Sallenback
That’s a great question.

06:34.85
Kelly Ireland
Um, yeah.

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06:46.28
Corine
There’s this new lidar technology and there’s all these new kind of cameras and you kind of like spectrums of you know, development in the camera industry. So I think eventually I think we’re going to get more accurate and clearer kind of depictions of what we’re actually seeing.

06:48.77
jim_phoenix
Um, right.

06:57.94
Kelly Ireland
Her.

06:58.64
jim_phoenix
I think that’s I think that’s the future I think you’re right and for his history’s most haunted I we said Montreal and I believe you went to Newfoundland yes I’m not yes where was the coldest because you would the Montreal like the winter time.

07:10.77
Kelly Ireland
Yes, yes.

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07:17.65
Kelly Ireland
Blah.

07:18.48
jim_phoenix
I Saw the edge I’m like oh my gosh I’m so sorry you went during the wintertime. No no was it really? oh boy. So sorry I apologize on Behalf of my continent. Both.

07:20.30
Leanne Sallenback
It was stole girl. Yeah, but yeah, those atlantic winds like I had those like hot hat.

07:20.72
Kelly Ireland
Yeah. Yeah Montreal and Bell Islands yeah Montreal and Bell Island land for both just off the chains cold.

07:28.42
Corine
Oh yeah, the Canadian locations.

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07:36.13
Corine
After.

07:37.94
Leanne Sallenback
On like everywhere they like burnt my skin because I put them.

07:38.97
jim_phoenix
Ah sorry I left because I’m there with you like it like that’s exactly steadying for the metro like okay I can’t believe everything’s frozen here I can’t feel anything ice for it’s like you’re either burning by you’re burning yourself to keep warm. That’s basically what it is.

07:53.10
Kelly Ireland
We laughed we laughed so hard we were walking down the street and Leann picked the wrong boots for the day and oh my gosh. She’s just like shuffling along and.

07:54.57
Leanne Sallenback
Um, yeah.

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07:54.81
Corine
Oh yeah I.

08:02.40
Corine
Put them.

08:04.42
Leanne Sallenback
So embarrassing month Montreal I I don’t walk in Montreal I shuffle because I have like grippy boots. Yeah.

08:06.57
jim_phoenix
Um.

08:09.00
jim_phoenix
So yes, oh that was my first time in Montreal as well. I’m like I see these things at other stores like little grips I’m like why would I want to buy it this I’m from a gun I don’t care action. It’s ice. It’s icy, whatever no, you need them because if you haven’t gonereal this trees are like straight up and down for a lot of them.

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08:23.22
Kelly Ireland
Yeah.

08:23.53
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.

08:25.44
Corine
Um.

08:28.43
Kelly Ireland
A happiness.

08:28.86
jim_phoenix
And the rest are just like sheer ice like shears your ice none whatsoever whatsoever like ice gates or or your friend and the gripping things I’m so sorry I understand this and I get it. What was the.

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08:29.36
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, and there was storm and there was no clearing of the sidewalks. So yeah.

08:33.41
Corine
Oh yeah.

08:42.76
Kelly Ireland
Um.

08:45.15
jim_phoenix
Most pleasant climate then what was the most pleasant comment. What was the most pleasant climate as in not just temperature wise but ghost wise without spoilers and stuff like that. Just like what was the most positive feeling.

08:55.37
Kelly Ireland
Oh Geez I’m going through the rolodax and he says.

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08:57.43
Corine
Um, oh no for the one your head.

08:57.68
Leanne Sallenback
Well yeah, like San Antonio was like San Antonio’s beautiful like being able to experience that city like from like you know the riverwalk and all that stuff like San Antonio is pretty awesome and it was warm and.

09:00.30
jim_phoenix
I’m hitting up I’m hitting hard That’s right right.

09:08.80
jim_phoenix
No wow.

09:13.28
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, we did the ghosts of the alamo and it delivered like we were just in very like 3 or 4 different spaces that all were super active and you know we could wear running shoes or flipflopbs when we were investigating. Yeah.

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09:28.26
jim_phoenix
All that like do a little skates around and the ghost of elm. Ah everyone thought those was Ozzie Osborne for the ghost of alamo turns out, it’s an actual ghost down ma actually happened for my metal fans like we have do as thing now if we’re going through this.

09:29.94
Kelly Ireland
Yeah.

09:31.57
Leanne Sallenback
No, but.

09:45.67
jim_phoenix
And you said there’s partsse that might have made you go. Okay, that’s it the end I know you guys sort of have that safe word ish I’m not saying what the safe word it is I don’t want like Jinks you guys. But if that would have happened could you walk me through is it just like ending and we just walk away from taping was ah you guys go back the second day or.

09:54.87
Kelly Ireland
What.

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10:03.95
jim_phoenix
Is it just done if the safe where has been reached.

10:07.17
Kelly Ireland
We haven’t had to cross that bridge yet. Ah have we not not in the series at least it’s kind of like it’s yeah, it’s the the agreement is that we leave as soon as somebody feels. It’s too much or they’re afraid.

10:11.70
jim_phoenix
Let say Jingsu Guys mic so far.

10:12.16
Corine
Um.

10:12.62
Leanne Sallenback
We Well maybe they want to wait a little bit.

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10:15.31
Corine
Yeah.

10:24.78
Kelly Ireland
If you ever feel fear. You need to get out so and then we reassess from there.

10:27.62
Corine
Yeah, yeah, you don’t want to put anyone at risk too right? like if it’s that if someone’s feeling that you know freaked out and that energy is that strong like we don’t know what it could do so we don’t want to put anybody even ourselves or the crew at risk. So you know it’s just like let’s.

10:27.90
jim_phoenix
That’s good. That is pretty good and I.

10:47.80
Corine
Take a step take a minute get out.

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10:48.73
jim_phoenix
And and that’s respectable and that’s that’s what I like seeing about your programs is because you have the respectable. We I think I said this last time we won’t mention the ones who kind of like call the ghost out start young. Oh like what are you doing dear like really. First of all, they’re dead come on like give them a break at this point but you’ve been respectable and because of that I keep asking this I was just wondering because you just did his history’s most haunted on t and e by the way September Eighth which is a Friday otta what has this comic comic club.

11:08.87
Kelly Ireland
Nagen or.

11:23.32
jim_phoenix
Comic club wow comiccon and a comiccon 8 pm or apion redo that ten Pm Eastern and pacific perfect time because your show is on the teeny nationwide pre free preview event readings hard for me today I should I be.

11:40.82
Corine
Um, it.

11:42.21
jim_phoenix
Not via teacher. So as we’re checking this out I was just wondering if you have any things are like attachments anything that the ghost came with you anything that said, like any kind of like dreams afterwards did anything kind of get in your psyche afterwards.

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11:59.13
Corine
I didn’t have anything personally afterwards this time. Um, but it was interesting that something came weeks before and kind of attached to me in a way that I’d never really experienced like that. So yeah, so check out Charleston’s episode and ah.

12:07.70
jim_phoenix
Um, oh really.

12:17.50
Corine
You’ll see what that’s all about yeah so I didn’t have anything after but it was an interesting one where I was getting stuff weeks before the episode and that that was new.

12:23.59
jim_phoenix
That that’s yeah, go for.

12:23.86
Kelly Ireland
Yeah, sorry I was gonna sayring cried in that episode and I’ve never seen I mean Lean’s lived with her whole life I don’t know if she’s ever even seen her cry so that was like that was the big one.

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12:34.98
Corine
Um, here.

12:36.61
Leanne Sallenback
yeah yeah I had a couple dreams after the Newfoundland episode. Um, yeah, so there’s definitely like you’re you know at various times drawn to a location and drawn back drawn to like Karrene was.

12:39.98
jim_phoenix
Really.

12:49.43
Leanne Sallenback
So it’s really interesting like we’re learning as we do this too like what’s happening and what our abilities are saying and how we interpret them.

12:56.31
jim_phoenix
That that’s pretty interesting now for history’s most haunted you are going through these locations for how how long is a shoot. It’s a like a week. How long are you in location about a week but as I guess out on the Montreal one. Yeah so you’re going through these.

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13:08.10
Leanne Sallenback
What five days yeah

13:09.24
Corine
Yeah, yeah, five six yeah

13:15.94
jim_phoenix
Have you ever thought I need to come back I need to especially if you have the things before and after I need to revisit No Cameras for history’s most haunted but I Just need to close her or some of that I’m seeing some yeses. Okay so good for me.

13:29.17
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.

13:32.70
Kelly Ireland
Um, for me, it’s it’s not well. Not exactly the specific locations that we went to but it’s more the area I feel like like when we visit a city like Montreal that’s when I think we all sort of agreed. We’d like to go back because we just got to touch a few places we got to experience a few places.

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13:35.91
jim_phoenix
Right? oh.

13:50.60
Kelly Ireland
And there’s just so much more and every time we go to a place. There’s more people that show up and like tangible people who are like oh my gosh I had this experience and this is what you do and can you come and check this out and it’s like you only have so much time So Montreal is definitely a place that I in particular would like to go back to.

13:57.96
jim_phoenix
Um, right.

14:07.30
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, but.

14:08.88
jim_phoenix
Um, I think you hit it on it head where else where else.

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14:12.20
Leanne Sallenback
For me, it’s it’s just that it’s Newfoundland because there’s something like supernatural about the place we were at like every single person we talked to on this island had a story had an experience and that is super rare to go somewhere where just like a living breathing.

14:12.33
Corine
I think I would oh yeah, go ahead.

14:28.65
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah.

14:31.45
Leanne Sallenback
You know reality. So yeah I would love to go back there.

14:35.99
Corine
I’d probably like to go back with you. But if not winter perhaps but yes, um for me I think honestly I’d go back to any of the locations like Kelly said everywhere you go, there’s just there’s so many people that told us like she said.

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14:40.80
Kelly Ireland
Are.

14:41.88
Leanne Sallenback
Um, it.

14:46.41
jim_phoenix
Nice.

14:53.26
Corine
Have you checked at this place I have you checked out this place and you know you’re filming and you’re you’re on these locations and you don’t have tons of time to go explore the other places so it would be really neat to go back and check out some other places that we didn’t get a chance to see just due to time. Yeah.

15:06.29
jim_phoenix
Just dude. Yeah and that’s the thing it’s you are there for a Limitedminum amount of time and for every was every couple minutes of especially for a documentary like every couple of minutes you see on on error. It’s like hours and hours and hours and hours of real time and so I can I can sometimes see like you think about Sql. The history is most haunted in the summertime tomorrow.

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15:29.25
Kelly Ireland
For trying to manifest by buying flip flops. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, somewhere warm would be nice.

15:29.75
Corine
Ah, wouldn’t I be a whole new.

15:30.70
Leanne Sallenback
Ah, yeah, yeah.

15:32.35
jim_phoenix
Yes, the flip flop door. We like that one.

15:38.90
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah, that would be great.

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15:39.57
Corine
Um, yeah.

15:39.84
jim_phoenix
Yeah, now we talk about history is most haunted which is on teeny again Friday September Eighth at 10 p M Eastern slash pacific on te during the channels nationwide free preview event. So if you’re like Jimbo right here and you’re like what’s cable. You can watch it as well see sometimes I can read. It’s like Fla now when you’re doing for history’s most haunted are you trying to I’m not saying you are but I’m asking. Are you trying to hope that something good happens something bad happens or just.

16:02.17
Leanne Sallenback
Um, yeah, nice.

16:02.59
Kelly Ireland
William.

16:18.17
jim_phoenix
Ah, you okay with sometimes like nothing. There’s nothing an okay response. Yeah.

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16:20.30
Corine
Absolutely yeah, we’ve gone into places where honestly everywhere we go into we have like I don’t know but you guys like I have like very limited expectations like okay well I don’t know what’s going to happen. You don’t know what you’re walking into and you may have heard you know.

16:21.90
Leanne Sallenback
Yeah.

16:33.90
jim_phoenix
Um, right.

16:35.27
Corine
Certain stories where people have told you things and we’ve talked to the witnesses who have had terrifying experiences. Um, but you know it’s about our experience so we go in and try to come in with you know, an open mind and just to see what we pick up because everybody experiences things so differently and so you know. Just find that sometimes there is nothing there and that’s okay, that just it doesn’t mean that there’s no spirit or ghost. There’s just at that moment. We didn’t connect with it right? and so you know investigating ethans could take way longer than just one night sometimes so yeah, definitely. It’s okay when you don’t get something.

16:58.99
jim_phoenix
Um, right? yes.

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17:12.58
Corine
And we have oftentimes gotten not a walk that night or nothing that night but the next day it’s like crazy active again. So yeah, it just depends.

17:21.63
jim_phoenix
I like that it’s like a feeling out sometimes like the ghost or the entities are just kind of like are what are you here for and then it’s a slight and sometimes people are shy. You know entities as well. They can be shy as well. So that’s very great now if you want to say 1 thing.

17:31.99
Kelly Ireland
Ever.

17:33.48
Corine
Um, yeah.

17:41.39
jim_phoenix
Just 1 thing. What was your best scariest whatever moment happiest moment for history’s most haunted. What would it be and we’ll start clockwise on my screen which was going to be liana. Which when what was the 1 thing you want to take away from this whole entire series. Yeah.

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18:00.82
Leanne Sallenback
Um, if I could just say 1 thing. Um honesty like stepping foot onto our first location in San Antonio Texas it was just the reality of it like I’ll never forget that moment and just like starting the journey there.

18:14.33
jim_phoenix
Um, no.

18:17.59
Leanne Sallenback
And like thinking about like our first location in Texas to our last location in Newfoundland and everything in between I know this is not 1 thing but I’m spiraling. Um, it’s some just stepping into that like first part of Texas I think is my like big aha moment like we’re doing this? yeah like.

18:23.91
jim_phoenix
No, it’s good.

18:27.52
Kelly Ireland
Um.

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18:34.35
jim_phoenix
That’s awesome. Yeah I’m smiling because I’m like you started out with a nice little warmish location like as time goes on. Let’s go to the colder places last go to their last Kelly how about you.

18:38.91
Kelly Ireland
Oh yeah.

18:47.70
Leanne Sallenback
Um, yeah.

18:47.40
Kelly Ireland
Can you see the question again. Leann Leann spiraled me off a little bit. No ski. Yeah well.

18:50.46
Leanne Sallenback
There.

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18:51.85
jim_phoenix
This script just took the 1 thing the 1 take away you got positive negative spooky good stuff. What was the 1 thing you took away from history most haunted.

19:02.66
Kelly Ireland
Um, yeah for sure. Um, besides the show itself and and investigating um for me, it’s in each location. The connection between the 3 of us and our crew that we formed that is so special. We’ve taken away that like our c our dop.

19:07.62
jim_phoenix
Private.

19:16.12
jim_phoenix
Cool.

19:20.51
Kelly Ireland
We have a bond with him. We call ourselves the fab for just him experiencing it and he experiences things in each location and it doesn’t always make it on but he’s experiencing things and gives me like excited Goosebus now because it’s like forming this bond with our team. It’s.

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19:24.71
jim_phoenix
He’s.

19:37.26
Kelly Ireland
It’s just more than the 3 of us you know there’s people that you don’t get to see and and that’s super special for me.

19:43.52
jim_phoenix
That’s amazing I Always like the behind this behind the scenes just um, break my own rule is there behind the scenes would you ever think doing behind the scenes little bit.

19:51.63
Leanne Sallenback
There There’s going to be um, a micro site with a ton of stuff. So yeah, yeah.

19:52.50
Kelly Ireland
Oh with that big one.

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19:52.94
Corine
Oh yeah.

19:57.24
jim_phoenix
Nice, perfect now, great last but not least the 1 thing for you. The 1 thing stood out for you.

19:58.13
Corine
Yeah, so.

20:04.55
Corine
And um, yeah, other than the show itself like everyone said I think for me this has been a I don’t know it’s been mind-blowing because I think for the first time since I was three years old I’m being my authentic self everywhere and so you know I’ve kept my abilities quiet for. Most of my life and so I think the Charleston episode was one that really resonated with me because it was just like I was that little kid going is this real again. Oh my god you know what’s happening and then all of a sudden when things clicked I was like an emotional rack because I’m like this is real like.

20:27.26
jim_phoenix
Nice.

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20:40.50
Corine
It was just so validating to me too. So it’s my own personal growth and I think that um, history’s most haunted as allowing the 3 of us to develop our skills and to to test what we can get and help people both you know hear and in spirit form because ghost for people too right? So yeah I think it’s just it’s just really.

20:53.90
jim_phoenix
Right? absolutely.

20:59.67
Corine
Amazing to me that I’m at this point and being who I truly am So yeah, but.

21:02.11
jim_phoenix
I love that. That’s a perfect answer. That’s ah I’ve got no no further questions your honor That’s awesome i. Love it. That’s being who you are I think that’s so freeing and that’s what I love about your show. History’s most haunted on t and e again Friday September Eighth at 10PMSlash. pacific and East or eastern pacific on their nationwide free preview of ven on t I love it. Thank you very much for your time once again I’m hooked I’ll be up watching every fs episode. You know me and me doing some reviews. Thank you so much everyone bye everyone.

21:33.95
Leanne Sallenback
Awesome! thanks.

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21:36.47
Corine
Thank you for having us.

21:36.81
Kelly Ireland
Thank you, Thank you for having us.

21:40.20
jim_phoenix
Hey.

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Interview with Creative Director Michael Highland: Let’s! Revolution! @ PAX

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Another game I had the chance to play at PAX East was, Let’s! Revolution!, a Minesweeper-inspired roguelite puzzle game by animation (and now game) studio, BUCK. I talk more about the game itself in another post. Here, I wanted to highlight the conversation I had with Michael Highland, the Creative Director for Let’s! Revolution! and his journey through video game development.


How did you become involved in video game development?

I studied digital media design in college; this was before there were many programs dedicated to game development. After graduating, I self-published a mobile game called Hipster City Cycle with friends. Over the next few years, I slowly got more freelance work as a game designer, and eventually landed a full-time role at thatgamecompany working on the follow-up to their 2012 GOTY Journey. I worked my way up there and was eventually the Lead Designer on Sky: Children of the Light. Working at thatgamecompany opened a lot of doors professionally. I eventually wound up at BUCK, where I saw the opportunity to help establish a new game studio within a very vibrant existing creative culture.

What has been the most challenging aspect of the development process?

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Each studio has its own unique issues based on the people involved. There are commonalities like the need to fight feature creep and building consensus around ideas early in the process when all you have is an abstract grey box prototype to react to. At BUCK the biggest challenge has been channeling the abundance of creative energy and talent into a shippable product. There’s a ton of enthusiasm for games within the company, and without clear product-centric goals (who is the target audience, what platform are we releasing on, what’s the marketing strategy), projects have the tendency to spiral out of scope. Another challenge has been building credibility with publishers. BUCK has an amazing pedigree for animation and design, maybe the best in the world, but when we initially pitched ideas to publishers, they all said the same thing: looks great, but until you’ve shipped a game, you’re too high-risk. That’s what led to us self-publishing Let’s! Revolution! Now that we have a well-reviewed game out in the wild, I feel confident we’ll have more luck with publishers. 

BUCK primarily has its roots in animation, what led the decision to start branching into video game development?

It started with a general excitement about the medium and a desire among the staff to work on a game. Leadership at BUCK is all about providing the staff with exciting creative opportunities, and getting to work on a game, is, for some, a creative dream come true. And putting BUCK content out in the world is a point of pride and a boost to morale. From a business perspective, the fact we can staff out game projects with the top animation and design talent in the world is a huge advantage. We’re already starting to see new opportunities for the service side of the business based on the success of Let’s! Revolution! 

The art, unsurprisingly, is delightful. What were some of the priorities during the character design process and how did those influence the final hero designs?

Our Art Director Emily Suvanvej really led the charge on the look of the game. There are obvious influences like Studio Ghibli, Moebius, and Steven Universe. My shared goal with Emily was to make something together that reflected the diversity of the team’s artistic and lived experiences. The artists put so much love into the character designs and animation, it really shows. 

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Some of the primary game mechanics take inspiration from Minesweeper, what was the process like to create your own interpretation of those classic mechanics?

This article goes into depth on this topic. The TLDR is that we took a very iterative approach, at each stage trying to identify what was working about the prototype and lean into that. The initial game concept came together relatively quickly in part because our goal for this project was just to finish a game. We just focused on what was good and kept building on it. I wouldn’t say the final game is “perfect” – but we wound up with a much bigger and higher quality experience than I expected by not letting perfectionism get in the way of making good better. 

Is there anything else you would like to plug or that you think is important for people to know about Let’s! Revolution! or other upcoming projects?

The music and sound design for the game is stellar. We worked with a creative audio company called Antfood and they knocked it out of the park. The audio got an honorable mention from IGF, which I think is extra impressive because most of the other games were audio-centric titles with some unusual hook to the sound design. For the OST, Antfood reworked all of the music from the game into a continuous flow, like a concept album. It’s so good. I love working with them.

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American Horror Story Delicate, Little Gold Man

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Last night’s episode of American Horror Story Delicate was wild. From its star-studded start to its powerfully quiet finish, I was enthralled through every moment.

Let’s discuss.

The story

We begin this episode at the funeral of Dex’s mom. While he’s giving a eulogy, which was very nice, Ms. Preecher walks in. She shouts to the room that Virginia didn’t commit suicide, she was murdered. She also tells Dex to listen to his wife.

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What a concept!

Touched by this, or maybe just curious, Anna goes to the hospital to check on Preecher. She falls asleep at the hospital. When she wakes up, Preecher is gone. A nurse says that she was discharged to a group of women.

While at the hospital, Anna also discovers that she’s been nominated for best actress.

Kim Kardashian in American Horror Story Delicate.

At a publicity event for the awards, Anna runs into Cora. And she sees the coat she remembers from her late-night visit near the start of her pregnancy.

With the slightest amount of pressure, Cora spills it all. She and Dex have been having an affair, and Cora was trying to sabotage Anna’s pregnancy. So Anna, channeling her inner Madison Montgomery, kicks him out and heads to the awards ceremony with Siobhan.

There, Siobhan asks her if she wants an Oscar more than anything. If she’d be willing to give up anything for it.

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And Anna says yes.

The bargain is then sealed with a kiss.

Kim Kardashian and Emma Roberts in American Horror Story Delicate.

What worked

I’d like to begin, paradoxically, at the end of the episode. We’ve seen Anna have some terrible, loud, frightening hallucinations in this season. At least, we assume they’re hallucinations. But this one wasn’t loud. It was, in fact, very quiet. Anna is led off stage, without a word, leaving nothing but a puddle of blood behind.

In horror, like in all art, the notes you don’t play are as important as the ones you do. And the notes that weren’t played her rang like a bell.

I also appreciated that this episode describes why being a celebrity would be a huge pain in the ass. Imagine going to an event where the whole purpose is for people to take pictures of you while holding their product. Imagine if they invaded your personal space, sprayed things on you, put things over your eyes, and you were expected to smile and pose.

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I don’t know what it is about being a celebrity that makes others feel entitled to a person. To talk with them, take their time, and share in their moments. To touch them without consent. Yes, there are way worse things happening to people. But this isn’t a great way to live. It’s no wonder so many of them go nuts. This is most clearly shown in the scene when Anna is sitting next to Preecher’s bed. She wakes up to find the older woman gone. But all anyone wants to talk about is how she was just nominated for an Oscar. At that moment, she doesn’t give a damn. She cares about this kind woman, and where she’s gone. Just like any other person.

Finally, I appreciated that this season didn’t do what so many AHS seasons do. Which is to say that this episode didn’t feel like the last episode. It felt like the penultimate episode. It felt like there was still more story to tell, not just loose ends to be wrapped up. I appreciate that the writers have finally learned that lesson.

For this season, at least.

What didn’t work

The first thing that bothered me in this episode was Cora’s confession. I said something about this during our live-watch event on Threads. (Join us next week for the finale. Bring popcorn and wine.)

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I don’t believe Cora’s confession. I further don’t believe that she just dumped all of this incriminating info on Anna with no more prompting than a wide-eyed look. There was just no reason for it. So, Anna saw her coat? Lots of people have similar coats. This feels fake, and she brought no receipts.

Tavi Gevinson in American Horror Story Delicate.

I also found Siobhan’s behavior confusing. At times she seems genuinely concerned for Anna’s wellbeing. At other times, she is more than willing to let her suffer and risk her pregnancy.

While this has been going on all season, it was happening every few minutes in this one. Either Siobhan cares about the welfare of that fetus, or she doesn’t. But she needs to pick a lane.

All in all, I don’t know what to expect from next week’s season finale. Anna has her Oscar, but now she might lose her baby. She might also get sucked into some horrible cult and experience a bad death. We won’t know until next week.

See you then.

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4 out of 5 stars (4 / 5)

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Monastery Series 8: a Book Review

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Dear readers, the time has come for some answers. At least, that’s what the teaser for the new installment of Monastery says. As usual, it delivers what it promised and more as we untangle the past and its connection to the present. Without any further ado, let’s talk about it, shall we? 

Plot

We start the episode with a blast from the past. Cassandra and Celeste (Nicole’s aunt and Arthur’s lover for those with short-term memory) are in the hospital because of Celeste’s pregnancy complications. Cassandra promises her former best friend that she will ruin her all the while we find out Francis’s real parentage. The picture is finally starting to come together. 

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As we are back in the present day, our group is more scattered than ever. Thomas is his father Walt’s prisoner while David is still running around looking for Rocky. Fred on the other hand is just looking for any place to crash, homelessness and all. Our dethroned beauty queen Nicole is hiding away from everything – including her shame. Last but not least, little Henry is spending his time taking care of Nana Beth. Guessing that is his redemption for trashing all the evidence of Albert’s murder gathered so far. Although frustrating, his actions are understandable – the poor kid is traumatized and just wants some peace. 

George Turner’s murder is still an active investigation. It is obvious that this cover-up wasn’t nearly as successful as Albert’s. I sure as hell hope that Francis gets his comeuppance sooner rather than later. Not particularly because Turner didn’t deserve it but so the rest of the characters would be safe from him. Although as I’ve said before, his clear descent into sociopathic tendencies is kind of fascinating to watch. 

We also get an interesting development in what so far has been a tiny background detail, which is the Monastery Werewolf. As the creature comes to visit Rocky, we find out our resident star dog considers it family. Not going to lie, it took me a few reads to understand what this means. Now I’m getting all sorts of ideas as to how the supernatural ties into the rest of the story. 

Speaking of the supernatural, it is none other than Madame Witch who frees Thomas from his captivity. Well, her contribution is indirect as she sends his best friend Alfie to help instead. Although I’d say currently the two should set their dynamic status to ‘it’s complicated’. As soon as he’s free, Thomas is immediately back in his detective mode. For arguably the first time he gets some real answers as we find out the whole backstory of Albert/Celeste/Cassandra triangle. I won’t go into details as that trio deserve their own article but let’s just say it gives Cassandra a big ass motive for killing her husband. Not to mention the way she took Francis from Celeste was quite brutal to read. 

We reach the lead-on for the grand finale as David and Henry are coming to free Rocky. This naturally comes with a condition – they must hand Francis the key they found during the investigation. Little do they know Nicole is already there being held at gunpoint. Oh, and Fred should also be around somewhere as he was sleeping there the night before. Thomas might be a little late to the party since he and Alfie are held a knifepoint by Rick (seems like a running theme here). Nothing good can come from this. 

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Overall thoughts

This episode does a perfect job of setting up the big finale. It reveals everything we need to know except the main question – who killed Albert? At this point, while it of course still matters, this story is so much more than that. It’s about all the mess that this family has got themselves into, how with each mistake they kept digging deeper, and how it took a whole new generation for all of that to come up to the surface. I can only hope our investigative gang will make it out alive…  5 out of 5 stars (5 / 5)

More thoughts from the author:

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1. Although a minor character in comparison, Walt strikes me as someone who’s there to represent the themes of Monastery – someone who will do horrible things in the name of family. What was your intention with his characterisation, especially considering he works for justice (aka the police?)

This is why I will always defend my decision to have a large cast, as opposed to most books – when you get even the slightest sense of fleshing out a minor character, it feels so rewarding. Walt, to me, takes the crown of “father of the year”, even if he does it by locking his son up in the bedroom. He is protecting his wife’s secret, protecting his son’s innocence, and doing so by going against his core ideals – i.e., a detective covering up a murder. He’s also based on a favourite uncle of mine, so it makes me happy to give him his moment to shine.

2. Something I thought of while writing this review – the cover up of George Turner’s murder seems to be a kind of juxtaposition as to how neatly Albert’s was since the police keep discovering evidence left and right (and how Francis doesn’t particularly seem to care). Was this intentional on your part?

It all adds up to plot convenience, and I have no shame in admitting that – Albert’s murder was so neatly covered up because I needed it to go unsolved for 14 years, whereas the reader knows who killed George, so there is no need for the cover-up to be well done.

As for Francis’ reaction to the murder, he started out anxious and paranoid after the fact, but he has grown into a state of not caring, which further depicts his descent into darkness – he knows he’s close to his goal (of finding the money and leaving his family), so there is a sense of invincibility taking over. He is stepping into his main villain energy and we are here for it!

3. Alfie has been yet another background character until now and yet he is the one who rescues Thomas. To me he seems like the friend who genuinely cares for Thomas and who gives him that reality check he sometimes needs to get out of his own head. Was that at least partially why you chose to bring him in for the grand finale?

Fun fact: Alfie was originally a series regular. However, halfway through writing the series, I realised I wasn’t using him as much as I’d wanted to, so I bumped him down to recurring. But the original plan always saw him and the other regulars coming together for the big climax, which is why he is in the fold. Alfie is someone who keeps Thomas grounded (if not humbled), since Thomas has the slight tendency to, well, think he’s better than everyone else. What’s coming up for them is one of the most exciting things I’ve ever written about.

4. Lastly, it’s not so much a question but rather a well done for how you crafted the Albert-Celeste-Cassandra dynamic! I was very invested despite knowing the outcome. Weirdly enough, while hating Cassandra for how she handled it, I sort of understood why she thought that Celeste deserved it? Either way, congrats for managing to craft these love stories in the midst of all the murdery goodness.

Thank you so much. As I’ve said before, romance is not my strong suit, but I do love a soapy triangle – and if it ends with gun violence, even better! The reveal of this mystery is probably my favourite sequence in the series so far.

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