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The Demons are back and this time they take on some Drag-ons with the House of the Dragon as Jim’s pick (note: Rape is not our sponsor!!); whilst Brannyk goes into the blue with Twisted F’in Sister Land, and the demons agree to disagree with Santa Sangria. All this and more on the next Streamin’ Demons!

Transcripts for House of Dragon episode

00:01.47
jim_phoenix
Hey, everyone on on today. We are not kidding hey everyone we have a great show today if we stopp the echoing we are a and we’re a cave right now so we might echo once in a while but today’s stuff we’ve got o the house of the ins inside. Ah dragon. Yep yep. House of dragon and plakesie blues tapes and then we finish this off with a double team of Santa Santa Claus now ah santas Andria Santa Sangri Santa Ho Ho I don’t know all that am more next streaming demons. Edit.

01:02.91
jim_phoenix
Oh everyone. How are you doing. We are doing another exciting adventureous dreaming demons with views truly Jim Phoenix and my co-host j m brannick if it is our real names. Hello.

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01:19.30
booooox
Santa Sangre Santa Sangre that’s a holy blood. Yeah, you could say that but it could be.

01:21.98
jim_phoenix
That’s your new names san the sangary Jesus diet is it like a poor name santaangre it should be so if the if you haven’t heard the the trailers of this eventually are eventually I guess we’re doing Santa Seria as the team up and house of ancestral dragons has mine and then you know yeah we got something like I guess the peps you’re doing blue. Yeah, we used to something like new old borrowed and blue. You’re doing blue.

01:44.93
booooox
The pokesies the pokeepsies.

01:53.10
booooox
I am doing blue. It’s it’s something that we usually don’t do a lot of but I watched it thinking it was going to be an old one and it turned out to be a blue one so old and blue just like old blue old bluer.

02:05.42
jim_phoenix
Old the blue old blue The guy off of old school who dies old blue or blue I Earth the guy the God the gal from ah porn who’ve also dies Damn love people, Blue dye deep blue and oh.

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02:12.93
booooox
Like Old yellow.

02:18.72
booooox
There’s a lot. Well, there’s a lot of people that die in this too. So ah, you’ll you’ll see you see you’ll see it’s but it has it does have a fun name of Pokeepsie. It’s such a fun name. Po.

02:23.15
jim_phoenix
There he goes is that’s what I said wow those play what is that 1 okay.

02:33.32
jim_phoenix
Butkeepsie. It’s this smallll little place in New York where twist his sisters from pokesie.

02:34.79
booooox
See.

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02:39.87
booooox
I’ve never been there I find it an adorable name pookeepsie.

02:44.32
jim_phoenix
So it’s a hell hole but all right? So were to know the the first there’s no guest that we’re gonna go launch right into boxes stuff Ja brannic as their video box this goes away take it away.

02:59.66
booooox
Yeah, because it it started roboting for me in our our our ah our cave so I took my video away. Um, so you don’t know which part of the cave I’m at you’ll have to come find me. Um.

03:04.50
jim_phoenix
Um, as it out came my.

03:13.98
jim_phoenix
No, no one to.

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03:16.87
booooox
So the Pokeepsie tapes I mean it’s It’s a delightful I Guess it’s a joke in and out of itself. Um, it is.

03:23.15
jim_phoenix
That was no place walk walk. Ah I’m trying to find you in his Cave marcoepie.

03:28.59
booooox
People You know the the funny thing is that people who know what the Pokeepsie tapes are are going to be so enraged Po Poepsie Poepsie Well then why is it? g.

03:39.66
jim_phoenix
Are you saying this name correctly is poepsie The is that Poo Kisie It’s that like win. The poo is.

03:48.46
booooox
H P P o o g h poips pow pow pow caps po

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03:51.35
jim_phoenix
Oh parkkepsi for gibie I don’t know I think it’s a person that I fo prevent.

04:01.72
booooox
Who Co pipsy all right Anyway, there people people who know this are going to be sowreed because this is one of those cult films it It is a cult film. Ah because it is a found footage film. Um.

04:10.73
jim_phoenix
Cult Thumb Oh no like the Cul rabble me though not the call. Oh that secure I won’t oh yeah, yeah.

04:20.68
booooox
Yeah, from 2017? Um, it’s It’s interesting because it did not actually get a release in theaters. It kind of went straight to video and then didn’t make. Turn a lot of heads and then when it got re-released it started turning more heads because yeah, you know and the funny thing is we all know the blair Witch. That’s like you know that canopball holocaust or like the 2 like main like I know you don’t like it.

04:36.49
jim_phoenix
Straight The video is my jam dude.

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04:47.55
jim_phoenix
Yeah, there’s an one. Oh now, No no, no no I Yeah ah truth we told I wrote of people that blare witch.

04:53.42
booooox
But they they’re the 2 main like found footage films in our collective consciousness and wreck huh.

05:04.57
jim_phoenix
Not one that got made I was wondering I wrote a sequel toler which it’s not the one that got made they went that did different direction I made it and just to an urban.

05:09.88
booooox
The book of shadows because that was the the oh ah oh no, no no.

05:22.91
jim_phoenix
I Found bit of the script go it was like I know why didn’t it made So I called the the blur which project.

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05:27.45
booooox
Jim now oh, where’s my kazoo. Where’s my where’s my kazoo in this very good. Yes now I have to run.

05:39.96
jim_phoenix
Um, go I hear something is that weird blowing who? Ah, but by a ya yaing.

05:43.85
booooox
Help Ah now I have to run away so you know my location. Um, so let’s actually talk about the movie. Um, it is a fountain finished tap. It is very in the style and of most baby Yoda documentaries.

05:52.30
jim_phoenix
Okay.

05:58.65
jim_phoenix
Oh it’s in the salab be reor.

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06:04.76
booooox
Um, that are that have to deal with like um killers or a lot of like true crime people will notice. There’s a lot of beats that it takes off of from those kind of documentaries and stories. Um, so you’re going.

06:09.58
jim_phoenix
Um.

06:13.41
jim_phoenix
Right? Like Hill Street Blues that type of beat.

06:21.88
booooox
Basically you’re going through the story from the detectives that are reviewing the tapes from the people that are involved in the disappearances of people and um, the tapes themselves. No.

06:31.33
jim_phoenix
Okay.

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06:38.12
jim_phoenix
Um, oh I thought it was Grandma’s cookcase but it’s actually from the tape not just grandmas cookies. Okay.

06:41.50
booooox
It’s the tapes themselves and the tapes I think they said that there were I can’t remember 600 of them or something like that. They’re just tapes upon tapes upon tapes of button tapes and there’s 1 guy whose job is to like watch them all and um and it kind of talks about that.

06:45.58
jim_phoenix
6 mokad no.

06:57.94
booooox
And it talks about how many of them are this one particular girl named Cheryl Dumpsey who is um, you’re not um, who is taken as a teenager and basically beat into his slave.

06:58.34
jim_phoenix
Dude.

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07:03.77
jim_phoenix
It’s me I’m Sheryl debsby.

07:10.50
jim_phoenix
Who care do that’s dark. That’s dark. Why is pain in the cave of us what the hell. So I think I.

07:16.81
booooox
That is dark. It’s That’s why it’s blue you bring him everywhere because he’s your platonic life partner and I still don’t understand it. So it’s an in kind of insidious movie because as.

07:28.58
jim_phoenix
You know it’s just got some et Cs awesomeniffles.

07:36.25
booooox
Watching it, you know because a lot of people are like oh this is a scary one. Oh this is graphic ooh this is creepy. You know I’ve heard I’ve heard this these mentioned several times in several lists from other reviewers from other websites from other places. Yes.

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07:49.56
jim_phoenix
Um, really.

07:54.22
booooox
This is one of the ones that always pops up is like oh this is super creepy. This is super like weird and kind of gross and independent. But you know it will keep you up at night, etc etc. So of course now I watch it? Um, so.

08:07.38
jim_phoenix
Um, ah I thought and I was like whatever so I’m interested in what you saw then.

08:13.14
booooox
Okay, well here’s what I saw is as I’m watching it I’m like okay yeah, that’s an interesting story and I like this story. It’s not so much of a story and not so much of a story like study of any 1 person because you don’t know much about the killer.

08:27.96
jim_phoenix
Are.

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08:31.95
booooox
And honestly that kind of plays into its benefit much like say black Christmas where you don’t understand Billy at all, you don’t understand the motivations. You don’t understand anything you just know he is there to kill period I’m not talking about the other black christmases and I’m not talking about other.

08:47.52
jim_phoenix
Oh I was thinking of black mass I was like in the one that Johnny Dupp that’s black mass right? Okay orma.

08:48.97
booooox
Poepsie tapes. no no no no yeah um so with this it it is a mystery much like many killer killers in our today times. Are you know like it’s a.

09:04.41
jim_phoenix
Mystery with a hat on a hat.

09:08.96
booooox
Horrible mystery and I think the most insidious thing about this movie is a couple days afterwards you know I would think to myself. Oh you know this reminds me of that one murder that I heard about. And in the back of my mind I would have to be like oh wait. No, that’s a story that didn’t really happen but it’s so believable that and we hear about these stories so often that it’s it’s not out of the realm of possible now some of the kills are over the top.

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09:29.37
jim_phoenix
Um, don’t ruin.

09:42.40
booooox
Very over the top. Um, but it’s like okay but you know honestly I’ve heard of weirder stories I’ve I’ve here I’ve heard of these weird stories you know and who’s to say that a killer like this could not exist or has not existed or.

09:54.78
jim_phoenix
Um, I heard this guy you may know.

10:01.20
booooox
Anything like that and I think that is like the most creepy part of it because again, it’s kind of cloying at you because you can go about your day and just be like oh yeah, that’s right I was watching this documentary about this thing and you almost tell people about it like oh I watch this documentary and then you have to stop yourself because you’re Like. No, that was not a documentary that was that was fictional but it was so real and I think they got they did such a wonderful job with it because of that and the actors that they had were so plausible and so um, realistic. Yes.

10:37.49
jim_phoenix
Um, it looks at real people they they could almost need people I like an actor where who are can be people.

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10:39.63
booooox
Absolutely yes, absolutely And like there was one interview with the mother and she’s like I met the Killer once I met him like and it actually shows the video footage of that from the Killer’s perspective and she’s like and.

10:49.20
jim_phoenix
Madam Tell everyone.

10:57.59
booooox
Ah, hate that moment every day of my life because I was.

11:01.24
jim_phoenix
Um, sorry there was a Killer’s perspective.

11:05.46
booooox
Ah, and she’s like I hate it because I was so afraid and I did nothing I could have maybe I could have saved my daughter and I did nothing and like that’s just such good writing and such good acting that.

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11:16.11
jim_phoenix
That.

11:20.12
booooox
Again, like I would have to catch myself and be like that didn’t really happen. Well not this particular story. No, it’s fictional. Yeah, it’s not I researched it.

11:23.70
jim_phoenix
Or what might have who knows like but how do you know a beauty to research it. How do you know? it’s just not going to go some snuff film. We just watched this faces a death all over again isn’t it that Sam’s honor you know

11:39.16
booooox
It’s It’s oh well, we could do that next time I next time faces a dove because I do have a lot of thoughts on that.

11:41.21
jim_phoenix
Thats we should pick space the death by the way. Damn it we should have pick space so deaf and says a sense of gosh. Damn yeah okay I saw them 8 minutess. Yeah know.

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11:55.25
booooox
Have a lot of thoughts on faces of death and I have a review coming up on faces of death because it’s funny. But lets see.

11:58.70
jim_phoenix
Yes, so for Perepsi tapes you’re saying it got you and you’re blue because you were thinking it. It was a real thing and you’re like well yeah, okay, real document.

12:09.94
booooox
Well I got it got me blue because to so to get that far into society to say oh this is a real thing in my brain to be like yeah that sounds that sounds fair. Um.

12:24.60
jim_phoenix
That’s about right.

12:25.73
booooox
Yeah, that sounds about right I mean that’s why it’s blue because it was it was like oh god that poor poor Cheryl and then I’d be like she wasn’t fucking real like um, but in the way she is because shit like that does happen like um the the numbers for.

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12:32.27
jim_phoenix
Charles.

12:44.28
jim_phoenix
You.

12:45.54
booooox
Women who are being abducted and sold off as you know, um, sex slaves and things like that is getting higher you know? Um, so it’s not like it’s completely out of the realm of anything that could happen.

12:53.56
jim_phoenix
Yeah.

13:04.43
booooox
And that’s why it made me blue.

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13:05.51
jim_phoenix
Well see. You’re just you’re just caring about sex slaves and stuff like that Mr slave and am I on my allowed that I get loud people am I like you’re busing them.

13:14.51
booooox
You’re so loud now. Yeah it I think you’re I think you’re closer to me in the cave I’m going to back off a little bit none I don’t want.

13:25.54
jim_phoenix
Ah, you find me can can you find me in the cave come on go searching. Maybe I’m the Killer. Ah maybe I’m the killer.

13:29.84
booooox
Find you in the Cave I don’t really ah I do anyway. So What I’m going to do is for um. For it being such an independent film. It did so much and I think actually it really did add to the found footage genre and obviously Huh Well shosh Sure it? Yeah but it added to the people’s collective consciousness because again like I said I hear it a lot.

13:50.14
jim_phoenix
Oh I added the film if it added the film I mean come on I. Oh.

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14:03.44
booooox
Ah hear it brought up in a lot of different places and um it is it is cloying. So I’m going to give it I’m gonna give it a 4 Yeah I’m Goingnna give it a for her pick for paupy. Yeah poepsy times.

14:04.67
jim_phoenix
Like be.

14:11.31
jim_phoenix
A 4 for pickepie tapes really doesn’t even have sharks in it or that that’s the same here I stand here I fall it all goes.

14:21.49
booooox
Um, but I here I stand here I stand with that’s we don’t have We don’t have license for that now. Ah.

14:30.36
jim_phoenix
Without adderall adderall I think my doctrine give me 1 thing is oh I’m sorry license prescription. Whatever the doctor has have license give me prescription. That’s how it works I know something was licensed well a 4

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14:38.53
booooox
Ah, that’s called a prescription. Not a license.

14:48.28
jim_phoenix
And like I have to follow for Damn it all I have is like incest.

14:54.10
booooox
Ah.

14:55.19
jim_phoenix
Step you heard this one is a story about a house that has dragons and a bunch of incest and a bunch of talking and like the the big bad guys like these white walkers but they don’t really appear and like something about children being. Like raped can you guess the the Tv show here.

15:20.23
booooox
Um, I’m going to say stranger things season 20 or wherever we’re at now.

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15:24.36
jim_phoenix
Whoo season 20 money for the money. Yeah now I’m doing house of the dragon from the game of Thrones land and might be dragons I don’t know dragon on that’s what the dead.

15:31.50
booooox
The Dragon dragon.

15:40.25
jim_phoenix
If you read any of my write ups for sexly fandom.com if you haven’t why the hell aren’t you probably should. You’re gonna notice that I’m British swear like a motherfucker why I don’t know. Maybe.

15:47.65
booooox
Which he does not swear in he doesn’t swear in oh I Thought you didn’t swear not in there not in there I thought you kept it clean and classy.

15:58.18
jim_phoenix
Me. No, no, no, no, no no I I down the joke saw this not completely ahoish. But I think I do maybe swear I know I don’t always swear that much. Maybe I don’t I don’t know apparently if you do read my Stuff. Do I swear.

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16:08.42
booooox
Oh okay.

16:17.61
booooox
Yeah, please, please let us know at a haunted Mtl on Twitter or on Instagram. Yeah.

16:21.25
jim_phoenix
I don’t know. But. Or even tweet sexy fan. My guys. They’ll they’ll probably get do is something that I’m glad I’m reviewing. It’s something that I didn’t mean I did the entirety of games of thrones for them and so to do house of drag and was like yeah I would love to do a house of dragons is awesome. And the first episode is like ah how old is she it gets creepy quickly like this like oh just and you know if you have any idea about the game of Thrones. You know the tark carry tarcanians the the best coach from your novi is Jerry Cartanian tarcanian the targarian.

16:50.58
booooox
Oh yes.

16:59.84
booooox
I Don’t know anything sports now.

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17:03.70
jim_phoenix
Thank you nothing sports wise well no, that’s just’s gonna shock you then you know the targarians head in says because that’s what all they talked about for like 16 seasons for game of thrones like well we’re just doing with the dark area. Is it nothing wrong with that. We just walk through each other I don’t care. Whatever whatever. But we didn’t know how creepy it was I mean maybe I didn’t find Jamie and cire creepy having sex. It’s kind of like Luke and Leah like oh whatever, their brother and sister but they’re adults. You know this is like older Uncle Daddy and younger sibling. Cousin this is Alabama Noah fans everyone from alabama all 2 of you sitting around what I assume is like the shared community computer to listen door podcast now coming out on a track by the way just to get to Alabama for you. Okay, we’re can see with that one. But.

17:43.70
booooox
A.

17:58.73
booooox
Yeah I can’t find my kazoo in the darkness.

18:02.41
jim_phoenix
Hey um, because do that’s okay, they can’t read and then dark rafa the dar and I was just with ah I hear it whole on words you kaoo I I hear the kazoo I either or okay pain. Do you ever care? Okay, he says keep Cando. Okay.

18:07.78
booooox
There it is there. It is up now running.

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18:21.54
jim_phoenix
So if you are a big game of throne fans. It’s great sort of if you were a big game of throne fans for like oh I don’t know you want to see the dragons I go my God dragons and to starts off with dragons like oh my God It starts off with these dragons. Oh my God Ah oh my God This is be awesome. Ah this is awesome. No.

18:38.47
booooox
No dragons.

18:40.55
jim_phoenix
That’s where it’s stopping. Yeah, it’s like they tease a dragon like ah gonna it’s because the house of dragons. It’s literally fucking title. Oh no, no ming’s drag on it’s like the old aszards ski or Steve bit to drag ons like oh man, no no, no, no, no, no. So yeah, you see it for a bit and then I I have dylexia self identifying I guess whatever. But and so names are very hard for me and especially if names are in fiction where they are like elvish or something like that is like fought the fuck and it’s the third circle of Helic I have.

19:12.66
booooox
Oh yeah, so.

19:17.77
jim_phoenix
Would talk to a friend who’s read the same books as me I’m like hey ah the like who and love Obama like who like you like we have to get the book out and I have to look at the name like oh fuck he’s right? That’s like nowhere near the name I’ve been calling it Susan so if you see my reviews I will call Matt Smith Matt Smith because I’m like dam Damian Damu what the fuck Damon Damiian like ah fuck it and I have to do it live so ah for my head is kind of like the doctor is like raping little girls right now I like that’s a dark turn.

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19:54.67
jim_phoenix
That’s a dark turn even for shibol you know, okay, whatever and then like some other guy is doing some stuff and he’s like the only person I really know in the cast and he’s the only person who like that the meme is true either seen the meme where it goes mess Smith broke his back. Carrying the fucking season of house or dragon he carries entire thing when he is not in the series or the show it just drag it just fucking sucks like there’s no redemp. There’s no like oh my god I wonder what this character’s thinking. They’re gonna tell you they’re gonna tell you a great length what they’re thinking oh fuck I wished now I’ve been like at least something like to look forward to and no, they just you know what? what my problem was with stranger things the last season stranger things while they just talk.

20:34.30
booooox
Oh do they didon song like in Disney.

20:47.38
booooox
A lot.

20:50.74
jim_phoenix
Andposition talk and talk is like the fucking last habit movie. We just fucking talk? Yeah yeah, yeah, the only difference from like this is the Kevin Smith truck but the only difference between not not this part umbering off of Kevin Smith where it was like even the trees walk in this fucking show. The only difference between the lower rings right now. And the house of dragon the trees don’t fucking talk in the house of dragon that’s it. It’s it’s just like oh my god I don’t know if they’re doing a world building but the world already built like who the fuck is are are they rebooting it because we we don’t know where how Spiderman got powers way to see them get bit by a fucking spider 13 more times. And we we don’t know how Superman got hit I guess just a sun right? That’s kind of work that it go for.

21:32.23
booooox
So I have a question did did j r r Martin have anything to do with it. Did he write it.

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21:43.33
jim_phoenix
You know I have no idea all I know is this character right? here is too old to be married off in the house of dragon. That’s all I know I think he has some sort of input on it. But. God. It’s the political. It’s a political theo. Still it’s like oh it’s branded broken but entire season of Brandon Broken with a little bit of a little bit of sack thrown in a little bit a little bit.

22:17.83
booooox
Well, it sounds like it’s only like it only works when Martin is behind it like again I don’t watch it nor do I care but no, no.

22:19.92
jim_phoenix
A little bit.

22:26.69
jim_phoenix
With a dog style and only works when he’s behind it. You never watched house a dragon or game of thrones or they lucky.

22:37.20
booooox
I read the first book and I was fine with that I was okay, same with Harry Potter I read the first book and I was good to stop there. Um I don’t understand you.

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22:44.28
jim_phoenix
Know you path way way, but sorry that was the cave about gro. You don’t like Harry Potter what’s wrong what’s wrong with your.

22:56.38
booooox
I Don’t understand no ah ah it just it never appealed to me um, same with like you know doctor who and stuff like that. Um.

23:05.91
jim_phoenix
Um.

23:16.38
booooox
Ah, just that was your kazoo. Oh god he’s getting closer running. Um but it seems like though to me that a lot more people were happier when Martin was like at the home like he.

23:17.99
jim_phoenix
That’s my kazoo. Ah.

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23:29.59
jim_phoenix
Fire. Um, okay if you read the books and then you watch the first couple of seasons game of thrones. It’s the book come to life. It’s like holy fucking shit this is the book come to life.

23:33.49
booooox
Was kind of holding it all together.

23:40.69
booooox
Right.

23:46.95
jim_phoenix
And then when he not even when he stopped writing the book but when he started going off. Script is like oh wait a minute that’s that’s they changed characters. No huge spoilers haven’t seen Gamema Thrones I’m saving some time or naga but.

23:59.78
booooox
I Don’t care.

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24:05.55
jim_phoenix
Jamie Lannister in the books doesn’t rape his sister on their dead sons. So talk you know their coffin or I almost said something else, but the the the coffin that they don’t he doesn’t rape his sister on the dead body of their kid in the books.

24:21.50
booooox
Oh that’s that’s.

24:23.65
jim_phoenix
They have consensual sex on the dead by their kid and the movie is like oh no I must I must change his character to make him a rapist like that really changes the fucking character a lot look and we think it wasn’t like a little bit of change is like what the fuck it? Why why? just do that.

24:36.71
booooox
Yeah I mean well again Rape is not her sponsor um, especially on the the poor coffin of your child.

24:43.68
jim_phoenix
It was not.

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24:52.14
jim_phoenix
There was no poor coffin is there is like gold I think so expensive Coffin Earth Top coffin.

24:52.60
booooox
Um, let’s put a ah well we’re going to talk about I’m going to talk about Coffins later So I’ll put a pit in that. Yeah Coffin So what is there anything redeemable is the music. Okay.

25:09.16
jim_phoenix
Shit the music is so bad that to the first episode they switched back to the game and thrones theme zone.

25:10.80
booooox
The Cinematography good.

25:17.54
booooox
You Oh God I mean um.

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25:19.96
jim_phoenix
The Matt the thing that works Matt Smith Matt Smith work but he pulls a heavy load on this one. No pun onana and that he is the show. The other people are just kind of plastic even the princesses.

25:23.77
booooox
Yeah, sounds like it. No.

25:39.00
jim_phoenix
Sort of okay but it’s things I think the actress for the princess is being I call it a thirteenth doctor effect. She could be a good actress. She could be a great princess in the Targarian line but the writing sucks ass for her. So she’s not getting the actual chance to do anything.

25:56.31
booooox
Plus it could be the direction that she’s given to.

25:58.90
jim_phoenix
Yet, yeah, and that’s whole thing like it should could be wonderful, but just there’s almost a spark and then it’s like oh we’re gonna talk the episode that just aired by the way we record this on the twenty second so it’s the last episode that aired. I believe I called it. 59 minutes of walking and talking like this is not her fault. It’s not the actress fault. It’s the in writing is the director. It’s the show running. It’s a lot of shit’s wrong with it. It’s not their fault so unless the next couple episodes are just firing flame balls and shit it doesn’t help to keep.

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26:17.91
booooox
No, no yeah.

26:35.31
jim_phoenix
Jumping in time to a point we don’t know like is this the kid that they were raping before or is that a new person is that that’s her offspring now is the the offspring which is the banam thing later on I don’t know so.

26:40.27
booooox
Move.

26:48.38
booooox
I I do want to point out though too because a lot of times. This is what people get flak on is that like you said it’s not their faults and a lot of times. It’s the actor or the actress that gets the blame put on them. Um.

27:00.76
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah, that’s up here. No.

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27:04.93
booooox
And that’s not fair because they’re they’re doing a job and a lot of times you know the director is the one who directs that the writer is the one you know who write I mean it’s ah it’s a full team. It’s not just one person. So.

27:16.38
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah, yeah, um, even when you think the actor in the actor rankk. Wow Man Even the stuff is for me. Ah, if you if think I just like talk like shit then you’re probably right? It’s not the director or.

27:21.70
booooox
Keep that in mind people when you say stuff online.

27:36.39
jim_phoenix
Writer is. But even if you think the acting is plastic sometimes that’s editing sometimes that’s posts they’re just like we we yeah we need background noises to make it us Believe there’s actual conversations. So when you’re saying hello. My name is and there’s like no other noise. It’s just the actor’s voice.

27:41.18
booooox
Oh yeah, absolutely.

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27:55.67
jim_phoenix
It doesn’t seem natural so we just know something’s off something is plastic or something that or could be the camera could be able like and either.

28:00.17
booooox
Or it could be Adr like shitty Adr you know? and um I mean like the best example of that is like the room whereas he walks in hide dogggy you know and it just so cut so miserably that it it like you said it sounds so plastic and so.

28:08.33
jim_phoenix
Um, now.

28:16.43
jim_phoenix
There.

28:18.20
booooox
Forced and so bad and it’s really not well. It was his fault but it’s really not their fault. You know there’s a lot of people at play here. So what.

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28:27.20
jim_phoenix
Absolutely, it’s the whole thing other redeeming besides Matt Smith no but um and I’m give it a mercy kill right now if it can turn around it. It has a potential to be like a 4 or 5 it really does and that’s the thing that pisses me out like well this could be a great spirit.

28:29.73
booooox
Okay.

28:37.98
booooox
Yeah.

28:42.84
jim_phoenix
I look forward to I think the joke was I look forward to the white Walker the John snows fit off so we can have John snow like snow walking in the snow because that’s how we know I don’t know you could look at the damn joke up I don’t know but I have more I have more. Like hopes for that spinoff now because it can’t possibly worse my remind me but can’t possibly worse in their park I could be hugely wrong like hey not enough rape and then says boy we got that one fix welcome to John’s note but is it’s all that this’s.

29:06.29
booooox
Um, well you could be. You could be wrong. You could be a lot wrong.

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29:20.56
jim_phoenix
All the weird like inside jokes like you know the really big bad guy. We have to protect from the white walkers. No no, no, no that they were done like before the end of the season. So um, you really meant a politics was a big bad guy or. You know you know you’re me the lord of Flame. There’s going like no, no, no, we already kind of mentioned that like half second for John snow and we kind of glanced over it or you know these pirates. Oh you mean the entire storyline that’s like a half a book for george r r martin and like completely forgot about literally. Forgotten about even by the characters in the fucking game of thrones going. There’s pi hurtships you know. So with all that stuff. It’s kind of like just it’s self-eprecating I don’t think they’re trying to be I think there’s like really oh look. We’re we’re pointing towards the future like you’re pointing towards the book’s future. But not will you actually cut and aired on Hbo so 2.5 if without Matt Smith this is a one by the way or negative some with Matt 2.5 the end. Yeah, so with that said.

30:20.33
booooox
Okay, that’s yeah, okay, that’s that’s fair that sounds fair, No, it’s gonna get better so much better.

30:33.43
jim_phoenix
It’s gonna get worse from here guys. What I can’t understand it I think sent to sunria. So obviously that’s not the name of the movie San the sanrant. Oh my God time read? Yeah so here’s it.

30:41.54
booooox
Santa Sangre holy blood holy blood that’s what as mum says holy blood. So good.

30:50.95
jim_phoenix
Yeah, no I don’t give me flashbacks here’s here’s the background on this. We were supposed to do a was art camp I art camp. Yeah, we were supposed to do a podcast like 2000 before the pandemic was it 19

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30:57.72
booooox
Ah, no, it was oh yeah, no, you’re right? it was art camp. It was hi cam.

31:05.62
booooox
Oh no, it was no during the pandemic it was during the pandemic. That’s when we started doing podcasts was I was getting stir crazy in my house and I’m like Jim I have to do something in my house and so we started podcasting.

31:09.71
jim_phoenix
There. Okay I guess it’s still sort. But yeah.

31:18.60
jim_phoenix
12 hours of but um, that that is true.

31:25.46
booooox
And so I had high art triumph with um, somebody else and ah the.

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31:31.77
jim_phoenix
You can Absolutely you know I’m not gonna say you can save the name but the name is and ah there there you go. We said the name.

31:36.52
booooox
Okay, yeah, yeah, so um, this was supposed to be another one that we’re going to do um and because I have the best luck um with co-hosts. Um.

31:50.21
jim_phoenix
Yes.

31:53.36
booooox
That was actually the one that we never actually sat down to do and that was the one that like broke us. Yeah yeah, he watched it I I love this movie.

31:59.76
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, and that was the guest on that show. So I had to actually watch this fucking movie. Yeah I hated it every second like why is this torturing I mean this is before I was just.

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32:10.78
booooox
I Love this movie.

32:14.19
jim_phoenix
When we did podcasting like here’s the money you guys do po what you want like I’ll buy it for and just yeah, yeah, and that was painful experience for me I mean it was you know absolutely care stay help everything and I I have a surprise for you box.

32:17.49
booooox
Yep, like but for song and a dance. That was. I Love this movie. What both? yes.

32:33.37
jim_phoenix
Or jam running I Surprised you all the way from I I got your old cohost back higher campmp. Yeah yeah, that’s why that’s why I brought you to this cave. Yeah, it’s not but.

32:42.62
booooox
Now you don’t yeah ah oh yeah, to kill me I thought it was to kill me and to make a tape out of it and you could call it. The.

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32:51.93
jim_phoenix
No, no, no, no, no, no, we we no.

32:59.25
booooox
Cave Ksy Tape Cave tips.

32:59.44
jim_phoenix
Cave Kify Behaves not cave tipsy done. No, but we have none are coming back live right? now you ready say hi.

33:08.19
booooox
I Don’t think I’m gonna like this I don’t think I’m gonna like this what a high I don’t like this.

33:17.81
jim_phoenix
Ah, oh what do you mean? no like us no time no see or something like that I’d like penis I like that dude who played the Goblin Buses name Penis don’t you think Bully is deep.

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33:30.94
booooox
I haven’t any I don’t like this.

33:37.10
jim_phoenix
I think we need 3 more episodes on bully do you what do you mean you’t like this I’d still like I don’t like this stuff and stuff is stuff. You don’t like your ear.

33:39.75
booooox
I don’t like this I don’t like this jam Jim I don’t like this I don’t like this I’m calling it I’m calling it I don’t like this. What’s what’s her secret word.

33:56.28
jim_phoenix
Ah, so guess like have like you know funny is I couldn’t remember that the person is out the special guest couldn’t remember what’s his name at Attic guys. No de fo Wow that.

33:56.89
booooox
No banana hammock I don’t like it.

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34:08.19
booooox
Will im Defoe willem Defoe yes I did yes I did and is there any other.

34:15.11
jim_phoenix
From Penis you got will in to fall from peanut or to fall.

34:23.10
jim_phoenix
Um I don’t know it was a Roy Bre breath think it’s a bully I get was that the one that had 3 episodes bully oh my god that was what what court squared.

34:26.29
booooox
But yes, yes, and poor core court Sweet innocent sweet innocent court court.

34:35.94
jim_phoenix
Sweet Instant core corps did you hear what she did on that exquisite corpse where she’s like the walls were covered when we are fucking leatherns or like human flesh. Yeah, absolutely her.

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34:42.60
booooox
Oh yes, Yes, she’s she’s very gruesome and I love it especially because she says it in such a giggly voice. She’s like and all the walls are. Full of dead skin and it’s crusty and it’s like a guard guard. Ah,, there’s a lot of people.

35:03.90
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah.

35:11.47
jim_phoenix
Yeah, we can’t name who else is on it but we we found a lot about our our staff from that is classic like with the hotel like wait wait. What the question was what’s Yourel. Ah yeah.

35:17.80
booooox
Yeah, those was oh yeah, yep yep, What do you I don’t know what you do at a hotel that was the thing I don’t know.

35:28.17
jim_phoenix
Maybe what the hotel.

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35:33.62
booooox
How you talk to people hotel because I’ve never been there. Um, and it’s like what it’s ok anyway anyway days of past Santa Sanria is one of my favorite movies. It’s it’s.

35:34.99
jim_phoenix
I never bit the 1 hello hotel per oh the the this is the treat me because it’s better than santaangria oh Oxford hundred can get deep. Yeah.

35:53.42
booooox
So good. It is so it is and I’m gonna so absolutely say his name completely wrong Show do Row Ski showed.

35:54.22
jim_phoenix
Oh food, the power. Yeah, this is this is the payback for yoga Holdsers I. Okay yeah.

36:03.33
jim_phoenix
No.

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36:10.14
jim_phoenix
Total Router Go he don. Um, you know we just come come maybe know.

36:11.13
booooox
Joe do rose key. He was the one who made that al topo and holy mountain. So yeah, we call him baby yodel around here these parts and so it was in um conjunction conjunction. Anyway, it was with um argento he wrote this.

36:29.88
jim_phoenix
Um, oh our gentle ah who I playing you off what? oh hi.

36:31.20
booooox
And Leoni don’t don’t nope come back. No come back? Nope we’re talking. We’re talking about this. So it’s an of guardre horror film and um, it takes place in Mexico and it’s it’s it’s. Really a story about love and how love triumphs all? So basically it’s about phoenix um, who is yes, it’s about you. You know, honestly that would make so much sense.

36:50.50
jim_phoenix
No sure is yeah Jim tell me oh I used to watch to watch this movie. You have closer I have arms though.

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37:07.40
booooox
Honestly about you, You do now you do now so his he was a child musician in a circus and um, his father was an asshole and a deadbeat and his mom was a trap.

37:09.95
jim_phoenix
Have arms. It can’t be me I’m in hands. Thanks to John halloy. Um, like Justin Bieber out like meber.

37:26.60
booooox
He’s artist and um, basically there was also um, this little girl. Um, who was a mime and a tight rope Walker and she couldn’t speak and she couldn’t I don’t think she could hear but I can’t remember I don’t know if she was deaf or not.

37:27.36
jim_phoenix
No longer like Justin Bieber

37:39.66
jim_phoenix
So she a mute mime who’s deaf so she was not even a mime she was just just a person which button.

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37:46.76
booooox
Cute as a button cute as a button. She’s just cute as a bun. So basically um, um, ah his mom is also a leader of you. You throw? you’re throwing me up.

38:00.73
jim_phoenix
It’s okay.

38:04.94
booooox
She’s a leader of this religious cult which basically it’s Patron Saint is this.

38:10.17
jim_phoenix
Um, is Grandma cookies. The patrons saying his Grandma’s cookies that the total we allll I know right? Awayg Jesus Christ rap not responded about why you picking things right movies by the way.

38:12.12
booooox
I Wish you wish is this girl who is raped and had her arms cut off. So. You you put the dragon house that’s different.

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38:28.94
jim_phoenix
That’s a that’s incessuous rape. That’s that’s different you you can was it. You still can’t get abortion for that. Really even for that Jesus Christ or least you can like travel state but you can’t just say travel state lines anymore. How to find.

38:39.62
booooox
No, you cannot know so anyway, um the mom finds out about um because the dad’s having enough affair and um, the mom finds out um and kills them ah the dad and.

38:46.53
jim_phoenix
Um, right.

38:56.80
booooox
Her arms get cut off and um I don’t I don’t remember how I don’t remember how and I don’t I remember that she kept screaming Holy blood.

38:59.48
jim_phoenix
You don’t remember how do you here they go I don’t know if something happens the arms fall off or something I Don know they just black Knighted. It’s the black Knight She had a black night.

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39:14.80
jim_phoenix
Holy man sent us a Gliar sanglia.

39:15.20
booooox
Santa San anyway he um the little boy because he sees all this and um, he shuts down. Um, and yeah as one does and he ends up in a um.

39:26.40
jim_phoenix
Um, one dog.

39:34.97
jim_phoenix
O an ass highle sound the sound like the movies is that like Blum house those movies. So I like make file movie.

39:35.25
booooox
And Asylum basically and hey wait We we did watch Asylum on ah on on ah art house if you remember that was the one of my picks.

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39:49.67
jim_phoenix
Oh ah, oh that’s the one that had the toaster that I was kind of confused or pain was confused if forgot who actually did it. It’s been a while I don’t know what character with was was pain.

39:58.84
booooox
I think I was paid it was and it was a mixer and me and the other person was like what are you talking about.

40:06.62
jim_phoenix
Oh care that was a mixer. So anyways, jumbbo they had like this like Betty Crocker thing because that’s what women get nowadays bettyracker or somewhere that and it kills everyone that was the entire thing. Yes, oh.

40:17.63
booooox
So anyway Phoenix finds his armless mother eventually after all this time and he goes back to her and becomes her arms. Basically so he is he becomes her arms like literally.

40:35.14
jim_phoenix
Ah.

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40:36.90
booooox
Um, and he plays piano for her and stuff like that. So but the whole thing is he’s never he never fully actualizes and of course there’s murders that go on. Yep, that’s him playing the piano. It’s really groovy.

40:39.90
jim_phoenix
Ah, he plays pianni.

40:48.46
jim_phoenix
Um, just and play piano.

40:53.45
jim_phoenix
With no arms. He’s in that what was it 1 movie be with the guy couldn’t use his hands at all, but somehow could play piano and the head Lou Rago but not really and terra reid and also not really the egyptian one but not really momy dearris. Yeah yeah.

40:55.27
booooox
And with well he’s the arms.

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41:05.78
booooox
oh oh Mumy Dearest Mommy Dearest yeah so it was a different piano. It was a grand piano. This one was a grand piano. So I’m not going to give away.

41:13.37
jim_phoenix
Was it that good of Piano or is it different piano. Oh Grand Multi Grand Oh you through? no I think can get way everything happens. No one would watch it.

41:22.28
booooox
Everything that happens because we don’t give major spoilers. No no, no, we not we gonna because um I want people to go see if you like if you liked the holy mirror if you like El Topo if you like um, something that is.

41:36.90
jim_phoenix
Don’t see it. Don’t see it. Don’t say it? No no who cares? no.

41:40.86
booooox
Different if you like um, what does what does our gento do um the what does that genre. Why can I not think of that genre. Um, it’s It’s not a spaghetti restaurant but it’s kind of.

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41:51.96
jim_phoenix
Almost as spaghetti Western but that’s really wrong if you do like spaghetty weapons. It’s it’s like spitty horror My anold was it gets pumped metal.

41:58.85
booooox
So like that it’s It’s kind of like that. Um, it’s the ah gello if you like chialo Um, you know if you if you like something that’s different give this a shot.

42:10.42
jim_phoenix
Um, that’s not true though I’m like gealo.

42:17.46
booooox
Because yeah I don’t know what to tell you I So I don’t know what to tell you with that. But so now I disagree wholeheartedly. It’s just enough weird to keep you guessing and.

42:17.83
jim_phoenix
Um I like rogueator so much it destroys my relationships and I still hate that movie I think Rolo Gator is a better movie than Santa Andriria or Thangra or.

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42:36.61
booooox
It it like I said it’s a love story. It’s a love story and um, it’s.

42:38.26
jim_phoenix
How was roator did de define The the woman they cast and obviously the writer director producer of it.

42:46.14
booooox
Apparently um, and it’s just beautifully like just um Cinema The cinematography is beautiful. The costumes are beautiful. Um.

42:50.19
jim_phoenix
I’m Joe West of those.

42:59.50
booooox
It has that nitty-gritty feel. It’s kind of dark and sad in places but there is triumph and there is you know a deep now. So I am the I I am.

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43:05.35
jim_phoenix
Um, ah the comic and talk dog. He’s in it un see him in it.

43:16.86
booooox
Wholeheartedly telling people go see. Go see it like if this is something that you think is interesting is interesting. You I think will like it. Um, now.

43:21.79
jim_phoenix
I’m telling you to masturbate from cheese crater insteaded you’ll have more fun. no I’m I’m so sorry no no no no where is my kazoo walk la. Thank youre okay, it’s put it this way if you like yoga hosers food deb back. You’re gonna hate this movie if you like Jaws which came on on imax again box. Do you see it on imax it came out earlier this year jaws.

43:38.29
booooox
It’s it’s good. It’s very good.

43:52.50
booooox
But oh now no I didn’t see it on Imax I Just saw it at the Redford theater twice.

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43:57.39
jim_phoenix
I was watching moonage daydream the they billy one and Imax and they had like preview four jobs. Oh what? if you have ah Imax it might be still coming art towards your way who knows. But if you like any movie that was kind of semi decent. This is not your movie watch house address. This is how much I disliked this way watch house of dragon. Don’t watch here. We go I can agree with this It’s better than cannibal holocaust arguably. Better than that one. That’s it if your choice between cannibal holocaust and what was it Santa Sangria it yeah pick santaangria yeah.

44:42.71
booooox
Santa Sangre oh my god he can’t even guys he cannot even get the title right? So therefore therefore I think point in my direction.

44:53.97
jim_phoenix
Who care? Ah, yeah yeah I would rather watch take Grandma’s and put him where it.

45:10.96
booooox
You love that board. You love that board more than you love.

45:11.80
jim_phoenix
On repeat then watches again. Yeah this what the top 1 is the Za the Zencastr board and I actually have the ah the ro catts are on and you get more into but yeah, sound effects are good for me and.

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45:27.80
booooox
I’m gonna say if 4 I’m saying a 4 4 a 4 The visuals are beautiful. The visuals are beautiful. Maybe it is. It’s avantgarde. It’s different. Yes.

45:28.10
jim_phoenix
I don’t do one what no more a 4 Oh my fuck a 4 dude this the endings of de are are better than this fucking movie. Be.

45:45.33
booooox
You’re not going to get your popcorn type movies. Yes, it is. You’re not going to get your popcorn type movie. It’s not a blum house movie Sorry Plum house. But it’s not it is a movie. It has a beginning a middle and an end I know about Phoenix I Know his struggles I know his.

45:47.25
jim_phoenix
That’s me hitting my head on the damn desk. Okay.

45:54.46
jim_phoenix
Um, is that a movie.

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46:01.49
jim_phoenix
I Know with you? Yeah, his struggle is trying to watch this fucking movie. That’s his struggle I was money say pexes of me. It has a story.

46:04.46
booooox
Problems and I Know. No, it has has a story and that story is about love and self-acceptance and actualization and determination like individualistic determination.

46:25.19
jim_phoenix
Ah, yeah, yeah, ah no, no, no, no, no, ah skip it. What was’s the score You said a what we did as a form.

46:27.32
booooox
From 1 ne’s parents and from one’s dark past? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sad out. Oh there is this oh I just want to let people know there is a sad elephant death I do want to warn you on that there is animal sad. Sadness. It’s not cruelty. It’s acting no this was in the 80 s okay I gave it a 4.

46:47.69
jim_phoenix
There’s animal cruelty. I don’t think it was acting I think this was before our SpCA. Yeah, yeah, all right? So What did you give it for I’m getting a negative one.

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47:05.30
booooox
It is on empires magazine’s list of 500 greatest movies of all time.

47:11.98
jim_phoenix
Fucked that magazine then fuck him right in the ass fuck with and that’s how I’m saying I wouldn’t watch this with Dr Payne paying me paining could tie me to a chair. And put hand sanitizer in places that probably shouldn’t have hand sanitizer and then slap me in the face with mega deaf beer while I watch roller gaator and i’ still pick that option than watching this movie ever again. I can’t tell you how much I dis I’m so sorry. I know you think it’s a good movie. It moved. You was good. It taughts you and that’s art I get it. You know different. That’s why we have this podcast because different people have reactions to they. So so what did I fucking so did I doesn’t mean I’m good.

47:55.80
booooox
It won a bunch of awards.

48:03.49
booooox
A lot more than yoga hosers.

48:04.77
jim_phoenix
You know I wouldn’t walk to Washington I did that wrong but didn’t write yoga hoser I don’t go shit know. But I I I don’t know man I don’t see it a negative one.

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48:11.35
booooox
I’m just saying it’s It’s very good. It’s very good. Okay, what are you giving it. You said a negative one negative one.

48:23.64
jim_phoenix
negative One negative one through so as the scale goes from negative 1 to 4 much like my um robot sex style but enough about my cho finish all right? So we had a big old time we i.

48:40.72
booooox
A big old time. It wasn’t fun time. It wasn’t a gay time. It was a just a big old time.

48:43.35
jim_phoenix
You know, let’s get this done is the big old time. What what movie be, we’re into next week or next time together. Let’s let’s get that out of the way because this one was like had pants.

48:53.22
booooox
We yeah, we we said that we were gonna have 1 together. What was it again. We both said it. Ah, we now we said it during the recording we said? yes we did.

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48:59.24
jim_phoenix
Shit I forgot what it was. We said it right before we found recording to I thought bad during the recording anyones who’s listening Please let me know what when ire supposed to watch actually that be awesome if it’s just like he me or something like that that we can. Ah.

49:13.16
booooox
You have to go back and like edit it dude. Ah oh my god Jesus. Oh yeah, yay I don’t know well you were the one that it’s like oh we should talk and I’m like oh.

49:16.88
jim_phoenix
I Don’t be off by that’s what then cash for I think it was like some movie were like oh we should probably talk about this one is I think that’s what we like.

49:31.80
booooox
So that is a good movie that we should talk about I can’t remember what it is though anyway. Okay, what are you am I plugging. Okay I have trappist monks.

49:31.60
jim_phoenix
Well Okay, when we listen to playback I’ll go oh that was the movie that was the way yeah has to plus do some plugs box what he got.

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49:49.15
jim_phoenix
Oh yeah, where where they do.

49:51.90
booooox
So I said put it put. Ah I said put a pin on on on Caskets So I’m going to come back. So I’m coming back to casket so trappist monks. Um, basically they are they offer and of course you know there are rules and regulations and whatnot but they offer free.

49:56.97
jim_phoenix
Okay.

50:10.68
booooox
Um, or very moderately priced caskets for for bereaved now like free caskets for bereaved. Um, especially and I hate to to say this. But.

50:15.82
jim_phoenix
Do that. That’s a fucking joke less your plan. Um I thought is Dr sign. That’s your flag so they’re offering free caskets. Well.

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50:30.22
booooox
Also for children. Um, they do that? Um, like and so and like I said they’re monks so they I mean they hand make these um themselves and they give to back to the people because that’s what you know monks are supposed to do and what not? Um, so.

50:33.45
jim_phoenix
How many chili for but no, that’s ah, that’s what I get for.

50:49.65
booooox
Basically you can go to trappist caskets and that’s trapp istcasketscasketsdotcom and you can kind of look at they got urns. They have keepsakes. Um. Have things like that if you want to give to them. It’s also there. Um, but it’s just it’s it’s such They’re beautiful caskets. It’s a beautiful cause. Um they seem like they they put a prayer on each casket that goes out. It’s just it’s it’s nice It’s nice, especially when people are in a time of need and when people are at 1 of the lowest points you can be as a human after losing somebody. It seems like they really step in and help.

51:37.77
jim_phoenix
I Can appreciate that I can appreciate that and if anyone knows or gone through any type of loss and you you know that undertakers are basically up salesmen. It’s like oh.

51:51.30
booooox
So they can be.

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51:54.62
jim_phoenix
Ah, don’t don’t you want this special box that they can never knock now is is still gonna fucking. There’s moisture. So now as the wire is bullshit or don’t you want this special special urn isn’t your love 1 worth it. No I’m pretty sure it’s still pop. But.

52:06.35
booooox
Yeah, wouldn’t Grandma wouldn’t grandma want the satin lined blub blah blah blah blah.

52:12.15
jim_phoenix
Yeah, wouldn’t yeah, don’t you like those don’t you care it doesn’t grand enough.

52:15.85
booooox
Did don’t you want her casket to smell just like Grandma’s cookies well for an extra $200 we can make that happen. Yeah.

52:23.35
jim_phoenix
Um I Want you know we can throw in. It’s like just yeah so I can think I can get beyond that you know anyone who can make things a little bit lesser in price.

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52:35.95
booooox
Other.

52:38.25
jim_phoenix
And still give some the zenance of closure I think that’s a good thing but that’s a good pick and just like boxes burb Jane Brownock’s pick my pick is something about death. Are you afraid? Do you want to like cheat death. We can’t really cheat death but you can outrun death especially if you’re wearing zero shoes. X e r s h e s dot um zero shoot dot com we’re having a sale up to 70% off right now because they’re having a new supply coming in of the different fashion. So if if you’ve seen some of like I got three six s the other day and they’re they’re lovely and I have I think speed force I have like I bought.

52:58.19
booooox
Fuck off fuck. Ah.

53:17.79
jim_phoenix
3 pair 0 shows one for hiking and 1 for everyday wear and 1 for running on the on the track on the road I mean and I can’t get enough them. They are the only ones I have a big feet and they don’t sell them in Canada Big enough shoes for me so zero shoes x e r s h o e s dot com you guys are all lovely. And if you act now it’s like 7%. Also why wouldn’t you matter? Of fact, just by their economical ecological and I think that’s ethcentrical statements I ever so a few ba for it beautifully I’m I’m giving the the gift of happy feet. Go so there you have we have cass for kids and shoes our our our plugs have come sometime a long way. They come lot will with my have Trevor projects and like charities. But I guess that one of the parity style but I just.

53:59.58
booooox
And she was.

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54:15.32
jim_phoenix
Ah, like shoes. So of that being said I love these sure you know Howard honestly not, they’re wide box and like no I mean they’re theyre wide box the to box they’re they’re wide box for toes and I I can’t.

54:17.24
booooox
Ah, you like these shoes. You love those shoes. Ah excuse me. Ah.

54:33.20
jim_phoenix
Bit most shoes. So I have to like gul up with 3 or 4 sizes just to fit my feetm. These were beautiful that there were the one shoes like oh my god I can actually fit in them. It’s ah it’s a touching thing. So big shoes.

54:43.87
booooox
You know what they say about a guy with big feet. He’s not Cinderella. He’s not Cinderella. Oh.

54:52.13
jim_phoenix
Not in to wrong. Well I am no wickeds tip sisters. So with that being said on the behalf of myself who am I good Jim Phoenix at my special cohost j m branick and like well.

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54:58.86
booooox
Her.

55:09.77
booooox
Good goodbye.

55:11.49
jim_phoenix
As we always say if there is a movie you haven’t seen thank god because don’t watch Santa disagree is completely horrible thing good everyone. It’s bad bo what is my booing. What is my booing.

55:20.27
booooox
It’s great. It’s good. It’s so good.

55:28.62
booooox
I.

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55:29.45
jim_phoenix
Um, no, not more blood are the gaze are you to boo. Um.

55:38.28
booooox
Yay Santas agree but fail.

55:43.61
jim_phoenix
Um, oh you hear a cat. Okay Bye row on.

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Goosebumps, Stay Out Of The Basement Pt 2, could have just been one part

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We’re back again with Goosebumps The Vanishing, episode two. A story too big for one episode, apparently.

Or, maybe this is just a nod to the fact that Stay Out Of The Basement was a two-part episode in the original 1995 show. Either way, after seeing this episode, we could have kept it to one.

The story

We begin this second episode with Anthony investigating the parasitic plant taking over his body. Rather than, I don’t know, going to the hospital, he’s decided to phone a colleague and send her some samples from the bulb he pulls out of his arm with a handheld garden trowel.

David Schwimmer in Goosebumps The Vanishing.

Meanwhile, Devin is having his own worries. He’s haunted by what he saw in the sewers. So, he gets CJ to go with him to investigate. What they find is more of the tendrils of the plant that dragged him down through the manhole last episode.

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I sure would have liked to see more about that.

Instead, we see Devin pivot to flirting with a newly single Frankie. Because teenage hormones I guess.

Meanwhile, Trey is having a terrible day. First, his girlfriend leaves him. Then, Anthony breaks his car window.

Needing a way to deal with his frustration, Trey decides to break into the Brewers’ basement. There, he starts wrecking up the place. Until he meets the plant creature and has an unfortunate accident.

What worked

The big difference between this episode and the last is the increased gross-out factor. This episode had some straight-up cringy moments. From the tendrils waiving from Anthony’s arm to the whole goat he brings home to feed his new pet, this episode was skin-crawling gross in the best way possible.

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The series is called Goosebumps, after all.

What didn’t work

Unfortunately, that’s where my praise ends. This episode, unlike the last, just wasn’t that great.

To start with, there was a lot of unnecessary drama between characters who are not in danger of being eaten by a plant from the inside out.

 Francesca Noel in Goosebumps The Vanishing.

I especially disliked the focus on the Frankie/Trey/Devin love triangle.

Now, I don’t hate it. This part of the story adds extra emotional depth to the show. We can see why Trey would be especially incensed by his girlfriend falling for the son of the neighbor he’s feuding with. But it would be more enjoyable if it wasn’t so cliche and dramatic.

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I hate the way Trey tried to gaslight Frankie. It makes me dislike him when he should be a sympathetic character. I hate how whiny Devin is every time he talks to Frankie. And I hated the impassioned speech Frankie gives after Devin asks her why she was with Trey.

Listen, I understand what we’re going for here. Devin and Cece are not struggling financially. They’re doing alright, and their new friends here in Gravesend are not. We kind of got that without Frankie claiming that her socioeconomic status is why she’s dating a bully and gaslighter. It felt out of place. It felt like pandering. It certainly didn’t feel like something an eighteen-year-old would say. I hated it.

Finally, there was a moment near the end of the episode that irritated me. I don’t want to give too much detail because I wouldn’t dare ruin an R.L. Stine cliffhanger. But, well, it doesn’t make a lot of sense.

I get that we’re watching a show about a carnivorous plant that is going to wreak havoc on this family and neighborhood. I understand the suspension of disbelief. Some might even say I am a little too generous with it. So I can buy into a teenager being absorbed by a plant and turned into a monstrous version of himself.

I can’t buy into what happens at the end of this episode. It doesn’t make sense with the rules established. It certainly doesn’t make any sort of scientific or logical sense. It is a lazy moment meant to further the storyline but threatens the structural integrity of the season.

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All in all, this wasn’t the best episode of Goosebumps. But it’s only the second episode. Honestly, the season has plenty of time to go either way.

2.5 out of 5 stars (2.5 / 5)

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Thriller Nite, Poem by Jennifer Weigel Plus

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So, this is a convoluted post, not going to lie. Because it’s Thriller Nite. And we have to kick it off with a link to Michael Jackson in homage, because he’s the bomb and Vincent Price is the master… (If the following video doesn’t load properly, you can get there from this link.)

The movie monsters always approach so slowly.
Their stiff joints arcing in jerky, erratic movements
While the camera pans to a wide-eyed scream.
It takes forever for them to catch their victims.
 
Their stiff joints arcing in jerky, erratic movements
As they awkwardly shamble towards their quarry –
It takes forever for them to catch their victims.
And yet no one ever seems to get away.
 
As they awkwardly shamble towards their quarry –
Scenes shift, plot thickens, minutes tick by endlessly…
And yet no one ever seems to get away.
Seriously, how long does it take to make a break for it?
 
Scenes shift, plot thickens, minutes tick by endlessly…
While the camera pans to a wide-eyed scream.
Seriously, how long does it take to make a break for it?
The movie monsters always approach so slowly.

Robot Dance found subverted street art altered photography from Jennifer Weigel's Reversals series
Robot Dance from Jennifer Weigel’s Reversals series

So my father used to enjoy telling the story of Thriller Nite and how he’d scare his little sister, my aunt. One time they were watching the old Universal Studios Monsters version of The Mummy, and he pursued her at a snail’s pace down the hallway in Boris Karloff fashion. Both of them had drastically different versions of this tale, but essentially it was a true Thriller Nite moment. And the inspiration for this poem.

For more fun music video mayhem, check out She Wolf here on Haunted MTL. And feel free to check out more of Jennifer Weigel’s work here on Haunted MTL or here on her website.

Portrait of myself with dark makeup and crow skull headdress, backlit by the sun.
Portrait of myself with dark makeup and crow skull headdress, backlit by the sun.

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The Fire Within – A Chilling Tale of Revenge and Power by Jeff Enos

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The Fire Within

By Jeff Enos

Mrs. DeVos called Sol up to the front desk as the last bell for the school day rang at East Elm Middle School. The class shuffled out, leaving them alone together.

Mrs. DeVos was the new English substitute teacher while their regular teacher was out on maternity leave. She had long, pitch-black hair and a mountain of necklaces and bracelets that jingled every time she moved.

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Sol nervously gripped his backpack straps and walked up to the front desk.

“That boy has been bothering you again,” Mrs. DeVos said knowingly. “East Elm has had many bullies over the years, but Billy Hunter and his crew give new meaning to the word. Isn’t there anyone you can play with at lunch? Someone to defend you?” Mrs. DeVos asked.

Sol had heard the same thing from his own mother quite often. They meant well, but all it did was make him feel bad, like he was the problem, like he was the freak for preferring the company of a good book over the other kids, like it was his fault he’d been picked on.

“I—” Sol started, but Mrs. DeVos cut him off gently.

“It’s fine. I just want to make sure you’re okay.”

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“Yes, ma’am,” Sol said.

Mrs. DeVos twirled the mound of necklaces around her neck, contemplating her next words. “Halloween is coming up. Are you dressing up?”

Sol’s eyes brightened. Halloween was his favorite time of year. “Yes, I’m going as Pennywise.”

“Pennywise?”

“The clown from It, the Stephen King story.”

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Mrs. DeVos raised an eyebrow in surprise. “You’ve read that book?”

“Yes, I’ve read all of his books. It is my favorite.”

Of course it was, Mrs. DeVos’s expression seemed to say. The middle school protagonists, the small town, the bullies—there was a lot that Sol could relate to in It.

“Do you like to carve pumpkins for Halloween?” Mrs. DeVos asked.

Sol nodded enthusiastically. In fact, it was one of his favorite things about the holiday. Every year, he’d spend hours carefully carving his pumpkin, making sure every detail was just right. In years past, he’d made a Michael Myers pumpkin, a Freddy Krueger pumpkin, a Pennywise pumpkin. With Halloween just two days away, he’d decided this year on Frankenstein’s monster.

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A mischievous grin crept across Mrs. DeVos’s face. She reached under her desk and pulled out a large pumpkin, placing it on the desk. “I have an extra one from my garden that needs a home. Take it for me?”

The pumpkin was perfectly round and orange, with sections of shiny ribbed skin that seemed to hypnotize Sol. It was as if the pumpkin were whispering to him, pleading with him to carve away. Sol took the pumpkin graciously, screaming with excitement inside. He couldn’t wait to get started on it.

“Use it wisely,” Mrs. DeVos said, watching Sol intently, smirking, and adding, “And don’t let those boys bother you anymore. Promise?”

Sol nodded, said goodbye, and left, making his way across the parking lot to his mom’s car. He got in and set the pumpkin on his lap. His mom was a little surprised by the gift, but grateful that she didn’t have to buy a pumpkin this year.

As they drove home, Sol wondered about Mrs. DeVos’s curious last words: use it wisely. Sol had been so excited that he had barely thought about it. But now, as he sat there, he realized it was an odd thing to say about a simple pumpkin.

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It was 5:30 p.m. when Sol’s parents finally left for their weekly Friday night date night. The house was quiet and empty, just the way Sol liked it.

His homework done for the weekend, Sol started in on the pumpkin. He lined up his carving instruments like surgical tools on the old wooden kitchen table.

First, he carved a lid on the pumpkin and hollowed out the guts and seeds inside. He’d already decided on the Frankenstein pattern he was going to use days ago; now he taped it to the front of the pumpkin and got to work, poking small holes into the pattern with the pointy orange tool. The pattern transferred to the pumpkin perfectly, looking like a game of connect-the-dots.

Sol started in on the face, each cut slow and precise, each one more delicate than the next.

Outside the kitchen window, the sun set behind the woods, giving the trees a fiery glow that soon dissolved into darkness.

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Two hours later, and with aching wrists, hands, and fingers, Sol made the last cut. He dropped his knife, got a tea candle from the hall cupboard, placed it inside the pumpkin, and lit it. With a satisfied smile, he secured the lid in place and admired his work, watching as Frankenstein’s monster flickered in the candlelight.

It was one of his best creations. But there was something off about it, something Sol couldn’t quite put his finger on. The pumpkin had a commanding presence to it, an aura that made Sol uneasy.

Mrs. DeVos’s comment kept swirling through his head: use it wisely.

And then something extraordinary happened—the pumpkin seemed to take on a life of its own. The small flame inside expanded, engulfing the pumpkin in a sinister blaze. The orange skin began to sweat, and the Frankenstein’s monster pattern melted away, slowly morphing into a classic jack-o’-lantern pattern, a sinister grin with pointed angry eyebrows and more teeth in its mouth than seemed possible.

Then the table vibrated violently underneath the pumpkin, and the wood that was once an ordinary table slowly transformed into an eight-foot-tall body with bark-like skin, each wooden fiber crackling into place under the jack-o’-lantern head. Small cracks in the bark revealed something underneath, tiny flickers of dark movement, like hundreds of colonies of bugs lived inside the creature’s skin.

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Sol felt numb, unable to conjure up a single word or thought.

The creature spoke, a voice deeper than the Grand Canyon, and the words seemed to vibrate off the kitchen walls. The fire flickered inside its head as it spoke. “What is the name of your tormentor?” it asked.

“M-my tormentor?” Sol whispered, wiping the sweat from his brow, looking up at the giant creature. He could feel his heartbeat in every vein and artery in his body.

“Yes,” the creature said. “The one who fills your days with grief. The one who taunts you.”

The answer to the question was simple, but Sol couldn’t speak. It was as if his brain had shut off, all energy diverted to his body, his bones, his muscles. Sol tensed his jaw, readying himself to run past the creature to the front door, to the neighbor’s house for help, to anywhere but here.

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But something stopped him. It was a voice deep inside him, a voice that calmed him. It was Mrs. DeVos’s voice, three whispered words that diminished Sol’s fear: “Use it wisely.”

Sol felt his body relax. “Billy Hunter,” he said.

The creature nodded and disappeared in a burst of flames. In the same instant, Sol fainted and fell to the floor.


When Sol opened his eyes, he was surprised to find himself standing in a small closet. It was dark except for an orange glow that shined against the white closet doors. Sol looked behind him, the glow following his field of vision.

Sol realized he wasn’t in his own closet when he saw the grungy clothes on the hangers and a box of baseball trophies on the top shelf. Sol caught his reflection in one of the trophies and nearly screamed. Staring back at him was the jack-o’-lantern creature.

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Sol looked down and saw the wooden body, realizing that it was him—he was the creature now, somehow.

A muffled voice from outside the closet spoke in one or two-word sentences. Through the cracks in the closet door blinds, Sol saw a boy’s bedroom. In the corner of the room, a boy sat at a desk with his back to Sol, hunched over his work, mumbling to himself as he scribbled.

“Stupid!” the boy said to himself.

Sol’s stomach turned as he realized who it was. It was Billy. No one else Sol knew could sound that enraged, that hateful.

Sol could feel the flames on his face flickering to the rhythm of his increasing heartbeat. All Sol wanted to do was go home. He didn’t want to be reminded of how Billy had made his school life torture, of how every day for the past few months he’d dreaded going to school, of how fear had seemed to take over his life.

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Again, Mrs. DeVos’s words crept into Sol’s mind: use it wisely. And standing there, in the body of a terrifying jack-o’-lantern creature, Sol finally understood.

With a firm and confident hand, Sol opened the closet door and crept into the bedroom, stopping inches from Billy’s chair.

Billy was drawing Pennywise the clown, the Tim Curry version from the TV mini-series. Sol stopped, admiring the detail. It was good, like it could be on the cover of a comic book.

On the desk’s top shelf was a row of books, all by Stephen King: The Shining, It, The Dead Zone, Salem’s Lot.

Sol felt a deep pang in his stomach (if he even had one in this form), like he might be sick. He felt betrayed. In another life, he and Billy could have been friends. Instead, Billy had been a bully. Instead, Billy had done everything in his power to make Sol’s life a living hell. Why?

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“You like Stephen King?” Sol asked. The words came out defeated, confused, but all Billy heard was the voice of a monster behind him.

Billy jumped out of his chair and turned around to face Sol, terror in his eyes. A fresh stream of urine slid down Billy’s pants and trickled onto the floor.

Sol’s feelings of hurt and betrayal soon turned into anger, disgust. Sol gave in to the jack-o’-lantern creature, the line that separated them dissolving. The flames on his head pulsed brighter, erupting into a small explosion that singed Billy’s hair and sent him flying across the room.

Billy screamed. Sol drank from the sound, the vibrations feeding him, strengthening him.

Billy ran for the door, but Sol got there first, blocking his way. Sol touched the door, and with his touch, a wild garden of vines grew up and out of every corner of the door frame. The vines grew and grew until they covered the whole door, and then, like watching a movie on fast forward, they began to rot and decay, turning black. The decay morphed into pools of shimmering black liquid, which quickly condensed and hardened into black stone, sealing the door shut.

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Billy ran again, this time hiding under his bed. But there was no hiding from Sol, not anymore. Sol bent and reached under the bed with one wooden hand, his hand growing extra branches until it reached Billy and encircled him in its grip.

Sol dragged Billy out from under the bed and held him up high by his shirt. The fear in Billy’s eyes fed Sol, nourishing his wooden body, the insects underneath his skin, the flames inside his face.

Billy’s shirt ripped, and he fell to the ground. Snap!—the sound of a broken arm. Billy screamed and got up, holding his arm and limping to the door. He tried to push the door open, but as soon as he touched the black stone, it froze him in place.

“‘Your hair is winter fire,’” Sol said, reciting the poem from his favorite Stephen King novel, It. Another explosion burst from Sol’s jack-o’-lantern head; this time, a ball of fire shot out directly at Billy, erupting Billy’s hair in flames.

“Say the next part,” Sol demanded.

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“‘January embers,’” Billy whispered, tears and soot strolling down his face.

Sol squeezed his fists so tight that his barked skin cracked open in small fissures all over his body. Hundreds of colonies of cockroaches and spiders escaped through the cracks and crawled their way down Sol’s body, onto the floor, and onto Billy.

Happiness wasn’t an emotion that Sol felt very often. He was a melancholy, anxious kid most of the time. But as the bugs covered Billy’s body in a layer so thick that only small patches of skin were visible, happiness was the only thing Sol could feel. Happiness morphed into pure hypnotic bliss as the bugs charged their way down Billy’s throat and choked him to death.

Billy deserved to be punished, that much was certain. But how much was too much? How much was Sol willing to watch before he tried to overpower the jack-o’-lantern creature and take full control? Until there was nothing left but blood and bone? How much of a role had he played in this? Was he simply an onlooker, or an active participant? Even Sol wasn’t completely sure.

But there was a power within him, that much was certain. A power that made him feel like he could take on the world. Sol figured that this was how Billy must have felt all those times he’d tortured him at school, otherwise why would he do it? As Sol watched Billy choke to death, all he could think about was the torture Billy had put him through at school. And in his rage, Sol did something unforgivable. He blew a violent stream of flames onto Billy, and this time, Billy’s whole body caught fire and burned.

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Sol felt Billy die, felt Billy take his last breath, felt Billy’s body as it slowly went limp.

Sol watched hypnotically as the flames finally died and all that remained was a darkened, charred corpse, still frozen in place by the black door. The bugs crawled off of Billy and back onto Sol, returning to their home under the fissures in Sol’s skin, carrying Billy’s soul with them.

“‘My heart burns there, too,’” Sol said.

Sol’s tormentor was gone, and he felt more at peace than he’d ever felt in his life.


A sudden flash of light blanketed Sol’s vision, and with it, a change of location. He was back in his kitchen, and back in his own body, and standing in front of him was the jack-o’-lantern creature.

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“Does this satisfy you?” the creature asked, looking down at Sol.

It was a question Sol knew the answer to, but didn’t want to admit, let alone say it out loud. Yes, he was satisfied. His tormentor had been brutally punished and would never bother him again.

Sol nodded his head slowly, shamefully.

“Good,” the creature said, grinning. “Do you have another tormentor?”

Another? Sol thought about it. Was there anyone else who deserved such a fate? One of the other guys from Billy’s crew? Sol didn’t even know their names.

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The idea was tempting. If he wanted to, he could get rid of everyone who’d ever picked on him. He could reshape the whole school cohort into whatever he wanted, make the school a paradise for the weirdos, the freaks, the unlucky kids.

But what would Mrs. DeVos think? She had entrusted him with the pumpkin, had instructed him to use it wisely. What would she think if he abused it?

“No,” Sol said.

“Very well,” the creature said, and quickly morphed back into the table that it once was, with the pumpkin sitting on top of it, now fully intact, as if Sol had never even carved it.

It was as if nothing had happened, as if it had all been in Sol’s head. But he knew it hadn’t been. He knew what he’d seen, what he’d felt… what he’d done. It was all too much for him to process, and he ran into the bathroom and barfed into the toilet for the next twenty minutes straight.

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The following Monday at school, everyone was talking about the mystery surrounding Billy’s death. Was it some kind of freak accident? A serial killer? Were the parents involved?

Sol ate his lunch that day in peace.

Later, when the last bell rang in Mrs. DeVos’s class, Sol waited behind for the other students to depart before approaching her.

Sol walked to Mrs. DeVos’s desk and unzipped his backpack, removing the pumpkin. “I think you should take this,” Sol said, handing it to Mrs. DeVos. 

“Are you sure?” Mrs. DeVos asked. She wore a thin smile, slightly curled. “There may be other Billy’s down the road, you know. And there’s still high school to think about.” 

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Sol nodded. “I’m sure. Give it to the next kid who needs it.”

Mrs. DeVos glided her palm across the pumpkin’s flesh. “That’s very generous of you.” 

Sol turned to go, but stopped himself in the middle of the doorway for one last question. “Mrs. DeVos?” he asked. 

“Yes?” 

Sol tapped the doorframe nervously. “Where did it come from?”

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 “Are you sure you want to know?”

Sol thought about it for a second. Did he? Could he handle the truth? He reconsidered, shaking his head no.

“Very well, then. I’ll see you in class tomorrow,” Mrs. DeVos said, smiling.

Sol left. 

Mrs. DeVos’s smile quickly morphed into a devious grin as she looked at the pumpkin. She took a large butcher knife out of her desk drawer and stabbed the pumpkin. A young boy’s screams could be faintly heard from within.

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The pumpkin collapsed like a deflated basketball, sagging into a mound of thick orange skin. Blood as red as sunset spilled out of the puncture wound, along with chunks of swollen blood-filled pumpkin seeds. 

Before the gore could spill out onto the desk, Mrs. DeVos plugged the wound with her mouth, sucking it until there was nothing left. She chewed the bloody orange flesh into tiny bits until it was all gone. 

Her lips smacked as she took the last bite. “Billy, you are a naughty boy,” she said, cackling.

That night, Mrs. DeVos went to bed well-fed. It would be three more months before she needed another one, but she already had her eyes set on a real thick number in the next district over, a ten-year-old nightmare of a kid who bullied the students as well as the teachers. She’d need a big pumpkin for this one. 

The next morning, as she watered her garden, Mrs. DeVos came upon the perfect pumpkin. It was hidden behind the vines, but there was no mistaking its beauty, its size. It would be ready in three months’ time, just as she would be gearing up to befriend the next Sol, the next kid who needed her help to find the fire within.

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The End.

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