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The Demons are back and this time they take on some Drag-ons with the House of the Dragon as Jim’s pick (note: Rape is not our sponsor!!); whilst Brannyk goes into the blue with Twisted F’in Sister Land, and the demons agree to disagree with Santa Sangria. All this and more on the next Streamin’ Demons!

Transcripts for House of Dragon episode

00:01.47
jim_phoenix
Hey, everyone on on today. We are not kidding hey everyone we have a great show today if we stopp the echoing we are a and we’re a cave right now so we might echo once in a while but today’s stuff we’ve got o the house of the ins inside. Ah dragon. Yep yep. House of dragon and plakesie blues tapes and then we finish this off with a double team of Santa Santa Claus now ah santas Andria Santa Sangri Santa Ho Ho I don’t know all that am more next streaming demons. Edit.

01:02.91
jim_phoenix
Oh everyone. How are you doing. We are doing another exciting adventureous dreaming demons with views truly Jim Phoenix and my co-host j m brannick if it is our real names. Hello.

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01:19.30
booooox
Santa Sangre Santa Sangre that’s a holy blood. Yeah, you could say that but it could be.

01:21.98
jim_phoenix
That’s your new names san the sangary Jesus diet is it like a poor name santaangre it should be so if the if you haven’t heard the the trailers of this eventually are eventually I guess we’re doing Santa Seria as the team up and house of ancestral dragons has mine and then you know yeah we got something like I guess the peps you’re doing blue. Yeah, we used to something like new old borrowed and blue. You’re doing blue.

01:44.93
booooox
The pokesies the pokeepsies.

01:53.10
booooox
I am doing blue. It’s it’s something that we usually don’t do a lot of but I watched it thinking it was going to be an old one and it turned out to be a blue one so old and blue just like old blue old bluer.

02:05.42
jim_phoenix
Old the blue old blue The guy off of old school who dies old blue or blue I Earth the guy the God the gal from ah porn who’ve also dies Damn love people, Blue dye deep blue and oh.

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02:12.93
booooox
Like Old yellow.

02:18.72
booooox
There’s a lot. Well, there’s a lot of people that die in this too. So ah, you’ll you’ll see you see you’ll see it’s but it has it does have a fun name of Pokeepsie. It’s such a fun name. Po.

02:23.15
jim_phoenix
There he goes is that’s what I said wow those play what is that 1 okay.

02:33.32
jim_phoenix
Butkeepsie. It’s this smallll little place in New York where twist his sisters from pokesie.

02:34.79
booooox
See.

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02:39.87
booooox
I’ve never been there I find it an adorable name pookeepsie.

02:44.32
jim_phoenix
So it’s a hell hole but all right? So were to know the the first there’s no guest that we’re gonna go launch right into boxes stuff Ja brannic as their video box this goes away take it away.

02:59.66
booooox
Yeah, because it it started roboting for me in our our our ah our cave so I took my video away. Um, so you don’t know which part of the cave I’m at you’ll have to come find me. Um.

03:04.50
jim_phoenix
Um, as it out came my.

03:13.98
jim_phoenix
No, no one to.

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03:16.87
booooox
So the Pokeepsie tapes I mean it’s It’s a delightful I Guess it’s a joke in and out of itself. Um, it is.

03:23.15
jim_phoenix
That was no place walk walk. Ah I’m trying to find you in his Cave marcoepie.

03:28.59
booooox
People You know the the funny thing is that people who know what the Pokeepsie tapes are are going to be so enraged Po Poepsie Poepsie Well then why is it? g.

03:39.66
jim_phoenix
Are you saying this name correctly is poepsie The is that Poo Kisie It’s that like win. The poo is.

03:48.46
booooox
H P P o o g h poips pow pow pow caps po

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03:51.35
jim_phoenix
Oh parkkepsi for gibie I don’t know I think it’s a person that I fo prevent.

04:01.72
booooox
Who Co pipsy all right Anyway, there people people who know this are going to be sowreed because this is one of those cult films it It is a cult film. Ah because it is a found footage film. Um.

04:10.73
jim_phoenix
Cult Thumb Oh no like the Cul rabble me though not the call. Oh that secure I won’t oh yeah, yeah.

04:20.68
booooox
Yeah, from 2017? Um, it’s It’s interesting because it did not actually get a release in theaters. It kind of went straight to video and then didn’t make. Turn a lot of heads and then when it got re-released it started turning more heads because yeah, you know and the funny thing is we all know the blair Witch. That’s like you know that canopball holocaust or like the 2 like main like I know you don’t like it.

04:36.49
jim_phoenix
Straight The video is my jam dude.

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04:47.55
jim_phoenix
Yeah, there’s an one. Oh now, No no, no no I Yeah ah truth we told I wrote of people that blare witch.

04:53.42
booooox
But they they’re the 2 main like found footage films in our collective consciousness and wreck huh.

05:04.57
jim_phoenix
Not one that got made I was wondering I wrote a sequel toler which it’s not the one that got made they went that did different direction I made it and just to an urban.

05:09.88
booooox
The book of shadows because that was the the oh ah oh no, no no.

05:22.91
jim_phoenix
I Found bit of the script go it was like I know why didn’t it made So I called the the blur which project.

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05:27.45
booooox
Jim now oh, where’s my kazoo. Where’s my where’s my kazoo in this very good. Yes now I have to run.

05:39.96
jim_phoenix
Um, go I hear something is that weird blowing who? Ah, but by a ya yaing.

05:43.85
booooox
Help Ah now I have to run away so you know my location. Um, so let’s actually talk about the movie. Um, it is a fountain finished tap. It is very in the style and of most baby Yoda documentaries.

05:52.30
jim_phoenix
Okay.

05:58.65
jim_phoenix
Oh it’s in the salab be reor.

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06:04.76
booooox
Um, that are that have to deal with like um killers or a lot of like true crime people will notice. There’s a lot of beats that it takes off of from those kind of documentaries and stories. Um, so you’re going.

06:09.58
jim_phoenix
Um.

06:13.41
jim_phoenix
Right? Like Hill Street Blues that type of beat.

06:21.88
booooox
Basically you’re going through the story from the detectives that are reviewing the tapes from the people that are involved in the disappearances of people and um, the tapes themselves. No.

06:31.33
jim_phoenix
Okay.

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06:38.12
jim_phoenix
Um, oh I thought it was Grandma’s cookcase but it’s actually from the tape not just grandmas cookies. Okay.

06:41.50
booooox
It’s the tapes themselves and the tapes I think they said that there were I can’t remember 600 of them or something like that. They’re just tapes upon tapes upon tapes of button tapes and there’s 1 guy whose job is to like watch them all and um and it kind of talks about that.

06:45.58
jim_phoenix
6 mokad no.

06:57.94
booooox
And it talks about how many of them are this one particular girl named Cheryl Dumpsey who is um, you’re not um, who is taken as a teenager and basically beat into his slave.

06:58.34
jim_phoenix
Dude.

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07:03.77
jim_phoenix
It’s me I’m Sheryl debsby.

07:10.50
jim_phoenix
Who care do that’s dark. That’s dark. Why is pain in the cave of us what the hell. So I think I.

07:16.81
booooox
That is dark. It’s That’s why it’s blue you bring him everywhere because he’s your platonic life partner and I still don’t understand it. So it’s an in kind of insidious movie because as.

07:28.58
jim_phoenix
You know it’s just got some et Cs awesomeniffles.

07:36.25
booooox
Watching it, you know because a lot of people are like oh this is a scary one. Oh this is graphic ooh this is creepy. You know I’ve heard I’ve heard this these mentioned several times in several lists from other reviewers from other websites from other places. Yes.

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07:49.56
jim_phoenix
Um, really.

07:54.22
booooox
This is one of the ones that always pops up is like oh this is super creepy. This is super like weird and kind of gross and independent. But you know it will keep you up at night, etc etc. So of course now I watch it? Um, so.

08:07.38
jim_phoenix
Um, ah I thought and I was like whatever so I’m interested in what you saw then.

08:13.14
booooox
Okay, well here’s what I saw is as I’m watching it I’m like okay yeah, that’s an interesting story and I like this story. It’s not so much of a story and not so much of a story like study of any 1 person because you don’t know much about the killer.

08:27.96
jim_phoenix
Are.

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08:31.95
booooox
And honestly that kind of plays into its benefit much like say black Christmas where you don’t understand Billy at all, you don’t understand the motivations. You don’t understand anything you just know he is there to kill period I’m not talking about the other black christmases and I’m not talking about other.

08:47.52
jim_phoenix
Oh I was thinking of black mass I was like in the one that Johnny Dupp that’s black mass right? Okay orma.

08:48.97
booooox
Poepsie tapes. no no no no yeah um so with this it it is a mystery much like many killer killers in our today times. Are you know like it’s a.

09:04.41
jim_phoenix
Mystery with a hat on a hat.

09:08.96
booooox
Horrible mystery and I think the most insidious thing about this movie is a couple days afterwards you know I would think to myself. Oh you know this reminds me of that one murder that I heard about. And in the back of my mind I would have to be like oh wait. No, that’s a story that didn’t really happen but it’s so believable that and we hear about these stories so often that it’s it’s not out of the realm of possible now some of the kills are over the top.

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09:29.37
jim_phoenix
Um, don’t ruin.

09:42.40
booooox
Very over the top. Um, but it’s like okay but you know honestly I’ve heard of weirder stories I’ve I’ve here I’ve heard of these weird stories you know and who’s to say that a killer like this could not exist or has not existed or.

09:54.78
jim_phoenix
Um, I heard this guy you may know.

10:01.20
booooox
Anything like that and I think that is like the most creepy part of it because again, it’s kind of cloying at you because you can go about your day and just be like oh yeah, that’s right I was watching this documentary about this thing and you almost tell people about it like oh I watch this documentary and then you have to stop yourself because you’re Like. No, that was not a documentary that was that was fictional but it was so real and I think they got they did such a wonderful job with it because of that and the actors that they had were so plausible and so um, realistic. Yes.

10:37.49
jim_phoenix
Um, it looks at real people they they could almost need people I like an actor where who are can be people.

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10:39.63
booooox
Absolutely yes, absolutely And like there was one interview with the mother and she’s like I met the Killer once I met him like and it actually shows the video footage of that from the Killer’s perspective and she’s like and.

10:49.20
jim_phoenix
Madam Tell everyone.

10:57.59
booooox
Ah, hate that moment every day of my life because I was.

11:01.24
jim_phoenix
Um, sorry there was a Killer’s perspective.

11:05.46
booooox
Ah, and she’s like I hate it because I was so afraid and I did nothing I could have maybe I could have saved my daughter and I did nothing and like that’s just such good writing and such good acting that.

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11:16.11
jim_phoenix
That.

11:20.12
booooox
Again, like I would have to catch myself and be like that didn’t really happen. Well not this particular story. No, it’s fictional. Yeah, it’s not I researched it.

11:23.70
jim_phoenix
Or what might have who knows like but how do you know a beauty to research it. How do you know? it’s just not going to go some snuff film. We just watched this faces a death all over again isn’t it that Sam’s honor you know

11:39.16
booooox
It’s It’s oh well, we could do that next time I next time faces a dove because I do have a lot of thoughts on that.

11:41.21
jim_phoenix
Thats we should pick space the death by the way. Damn it we should have pick space so deaf and says a sense of gosh. Damn yeah okay I saw them 8 minutess. Yeah know.

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11:55.25
booooox
Have a lot of thoughts on faces of death and I have a review coming up on faces of death because it’s funny. But lets see.

11:58.70
jim_phoenix
Yes, so for Perepsi tapes you’re saying it got you and you’re blue because you were thinking it. It was a real thing and you’re like well yeah, okay, real document.

12:09.94
booooox
Well I got it got me blue because to so to get that far into society to say oh this is a real thing in my brain to be like yeah that sounds that sounds fair. Um.

12:24.60
jim_phoenix
That’s about right.

12:25.73
booooox
Yeah, that sounds about right I mean that’s why it’s blue because it was it was like oh god that poor poor Cheryl and then I’d be like she wasn’t fucking real like um, but in the way she is because shit like that does happen like um the the numbers for.

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12:32.27
jim_phoenix
Charles.

12:44.28
jim_phoenix
You.

12:45.54
booooox
Women who are being abducted and sold off as you know, um, sex slaves and things like that is getting higher you know? Um, so it’s not like it’s completely out of the realm of anything that could happen.

12:53.56
jim_phoenix
Yeah.

13:04.43
booooox
And that’s why it made me blue.

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13:05.51
jim_phoenix
Well see. You’re just you’re just caring about sex slaves and stuff like that Mr slave and am I on my allowed that I get loud people am I like you’re busing them.

13:14.51
booooox
You’re so loud now. Yeah it I think you’re I think you’re closer to me in the cave I’m going to back off a little bit none I don’t want.

13:25.54
jim_phoenix
Ah, you find me can can you find me in the cave come on go searching. Maybe I’m the Killer. Ah maybe I’m the killer.

13:29.84
booooox
Find you in the Cave I don’t really ah I do anyway. So What I’m going to do is for um. For it being such an independent film. It did so much and I think actually it really did add to the found footage genre and obviously Huh Well shosh Sure it? Yeah but it added to the people’s collective consciousness because again like I said I hear it a lot.

13:50.14
jim_phoenix
Oh I added the film if it added the film I mean come on I. Oh.

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14:03.44
booooox
Ah hear it brought up in a lot of different places and um it is it is cloying. So I’m going to give it I’m gonna give it a 4 Yeah I’m Goingnna give it a for her pick for paupy. Yeah poepsy times.

14:04.67
jim_phoenix
Like be.

14:11.31
jim_phoenix
A 4 for pickepie tapes really doesn’t even have sharks in it or that that’s the same here I stand here I fall it all goes.

14:21.49
booooox
Um, but I here I stand here I stand with that’s we don’t have We don’t have license for that now. Ah.

14:30.36
jim_phoenix
Without adderall adderall I think my doctrine give me 1 thing is oh I’m sorry license prescription. Whatever the doctor has have license give me prescription. That’s how it works I know something was licensed well a 4

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14:38.53
booooox
Ah, that’s called a prescription. Not a license.

14:48.28
jim_phoenix
And like I have to follow for Damn it all I have is like incest.

14:54.10
booooox
Ah.

14:55.19
jim_phoenix
Step you heard this one is a story about a house that has dragons and a bunch of incest and a bunch of talking and like the the big bad guys like these white walkers but they don’t really appear and like something about children being. Like raped can you guess the the Tv show here.

15:20.23
booooox
Um, I’m going to say stranger things season 20 or wherever we’re at now.

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15:24.36
jim_phoenix
Whoo season 20 money for the money. Yeah now I’m doing house of the dragon from the game of Thrones land and might be dragons I don’t know dragon on that’s what the dead.

15:31.50
booooox
The Dragon dragon.

15:40.25
jim_phoenix
If you read any of my write ups for sexly fandom.com if you haven’t why the hell aren’t you probably should. You’re gonna notice that I’m British swear like a motherfucker why I don’t know. Maybe.

15:47.65
booooox
Which he does not swear in he doesn’t swear in oh I Thought you didn’t swear not in there not in there I thought you kept it clean and classy.

15:58.18
jim_phoenix
Me. No, no, no, no, no no I I down the joke saw this not completely ahoish. But I think I do maybe swear I know I don’t always swear that much. Maybe I don’t I don’t know apparently if you do read my Stuff. Do I swear.

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16:08.42
booooox
Oh okay.

16:17.61
booooox
Yeah, please, please let us know at a haunted Mtl on Twitter or on Instagram. Yeah.

16:21.25
jim_phoenix
I don’t know. But. Or even tweet sexy fan. My guys. They’ll they’ll probably get do is something that I’m glad I’m reviewing. It’s something that I didn’t mean I did the entirety of games of thrones for them and so to do house of drag and was like yeah I would love to do a house of dragons is awesome. And the first episode is like ah how old is she it gets creepy quickly like this like oh just and you know if you have any idea about the game of Thrones. You know the tark carry tarcanians the the best coach from your novi is Jerry Cartanian tarcanian the targarian.

16:50.58
booooox
Oh yes.

16:59.84
booooox
I Don’t know anything sports now.

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17:03.70
jim_phoenix
Thank you nothing sports wise well no, that’s just’s gonna shock you then you know the targarians head in says because that’s what all they talked about for like 16 seasons for game of thrones like well we’re just doing with the dark area. Is it nothing wrong with that. We just walk through each other I don’t care. Whatever whatever. But we didn’t know how creepy it was I mean maybe I didn’t find Jamie and cire creepy having sex. It’s kind of like Luke and Leah like oh whatever, their brother and sister but they’re adults. You know this is like older Uncle Daddy and younger sibling. Cousin this is Alabama Noah fans everyone from alabama all 2 of you sitting around what I assume is like the shared community computer to listen door podcast now coming out on a track by the way just to get to Alabama for you. Okay, we’re can see with that one. But.

17:43.70
booooox
A.

17:58.73
booooox
Yeah I can’t find my kazoo in the darkness.

18:02.41
jim_phoenix
Hey um, because do that’s okay, they can’t read and then dark rafa the dar and I was just with ah I hear it whole on words you kaoo I I hear the kazoo I either or okay pain. Do you ever care? Okay, he says keep Cando. Okay.

18:07.78
booooox
There it is there. It is up now running.

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18:21.54
jim_phoenix
So if you are a big game of throne fans. It’s great sort of if you were a big game of throne fans for like oh I don’t know you want to see the dragons I go my God dragons and to starts off with dragons like oh my God It starts off with these dragons. Oh my God Ah oh my God This is be awesome. Ah this is awesome. No.

18:38.47
booooox
No dragons.

18:40.55
jim_phoenix
That’s where it’s stopping. Yeah, it’s like they tease a dragon like ah gonna it’s because the house of dragons. It’s literally fucking title. Oh no, no ming’s drag on it’s like the old aszards ski or Steve bit to drag ons like oh man, no no, no, no, no, no. So yeah, you see it for a bit and then I I have dylexia self identifying I guess whatever. But and so names are very hard for me and especially if names are in fiction where they are like elvish or something like that is like fought the fuck and it’s the third circle of Helic I have.

19:12.66
booooox
Oh yeah, so.

19:17.77
jim_phoenix
Would talk to a friend who’s read the same books as me I’m like hey ah the like who and love Obama like who like you like we have to get the book out and I have to look at the name like oh fuck he’s right? That’s like nowhere near the name I’ve been calling it Susan so if you see my reviews I will call Matt Smith Matt Smith because I’m like dam Damian Damu what the fuck Damon Damiian like ah fuck it and I have to do it live so ah for my head is kind of like the doctor is like raping little girls right now I like that’s a dark turn.

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19:54.67
jim_phoenix
That’s a dark turn even for shibol you know, okay, whatever and then like some other guy is doing some stuff and he’s like the only person I really know in the cast and he’s the only person who like that the meme is true either seen the meme where it goes mess Smith broke his back. Carrying the fucking season of house or dragon he carries entire thing when he is not in the series or the show it just drag it just fucking sucks like there’s no redemp. There’s no like oh my god I wonder what this character’s thinking. They’re gonna tell you they’re gonna tell you a great length what they’re thinking oh fuck I wished now I’ve been like at least something like to look forward to and no, they just you know what? what my problem was with stranger things the last season stranger things while they just talk.

20:34.30
booooox
Oh do they didon song like in Disney.

20:47.38
booooox
A lot.

20:50.74
jim_phoenix
Andposition talk and talk is like the fucking last habit movie. We just fucking talk? Yeah yeah, yeah, the only difference from like this is the Kevin Smith truck but the only difference between not not this part umbering off of Kevin Smith where it was like even the trees walk in this fucking show. The only difference between the lower rings right now. And the house of dragon the trees don’t fucking talk in the house of dragon that’s it. It’s it’s just like oh my god I don’t know if they’re doing a world building but the world already built like who the fuck is are are they rebooting it because we we don’t know where how Spiderman got powers way to see them get bit by a fucking spider 13 more times. And we we don’t know how Superman got hit I guess just a sun right? That’s kind of work that it go for.

21:32.23
booooox
So I have a question did did j r r Martin have anything to do with it. Did he write it.

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21:43.33
jim_phoenix
You know I have no idea all I know is this character right? here is too old to be married off in the house of dragon. That’s all I know I think he has some sort of input on it. But. God. It’s the political. It’s a political theo. Still it’s like oh it’s branded broken but entire season of Brandon Broken with a little bit of a little bit of sack thrown in a little bit a little bit.

22:17.83
booooox
Well, it sounds like it’s only like it only works when Martin is behind it like again I don’t watch it nor do I care but no, no.

22:19.92
jim_phoenix
A little bit.

22:26.69
jim_phoenix
With a dog style and only works when he’s behind it. You never watched house a dragon or game of thrones or they lucky.

22:37.20
booooox
I read the first book and I was fine with that I was okay, same with Harry Potter I read the first book and I was good to stop there. Um I don’t understand you.

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22:44.28
jim_phoenix
Know you path way way, but sorry that was the cave about gro. You don’t like Harry Potter what’s wrong what’s wrong with your.

22:56.38
booooox
I Don’t understand no ah ah it just it never appealed to me um, same with like you know doctor who and stuff like that. Um.

23:05.91
jim_phoenix
Um.

23:16.38
booooox
Ah, just that was your kazoo. Oh god he’s getting closer running. Um but it seems like though to me that a lot more people were happier when Martin was like at the home like he.

23:17.99
jim_phoenix
That’s my kazoo. Ah.

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23:29.59
jim_phoenix
Fire. Um, okay if you read the books and then you watch the first couple of seasons game of thrones. It’s the book come to life. It’s like holy fucking shit this is the book come to life.

23:33.49
booooox
Was kind of holding it all together.

23:40.69
booooox
Right.

23:46.95
jim_phoenix
And then when he not even when he stopped writing the book but when he started going off. Script is like oh wait a minute that’s that’s they changed characters. No huge spoilers haven’t seen Gamema Thrones I’m saving some time or naga but.

23:59.78
booooox
I Don’t care.

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24:05.55
jim_phoenix
Jamie Lannister in the books doesn’t rape his sister on their dead sons. So talk you know their coffin or I almost said something else, but the the the coffin that they don’t he doesn’t rape his sister on the dead body of their kid in the books.

24:21.50
booooox
Oh that’s that’s.

24:23.65
jim_phoenix
They have consensual sex on the dead by their kid and the movie is like oh no I must I must change his character to make him a rapist like that really changes the fucking character a lot look and we think it wasn’t like a little bit of change is like what the fuck it? Why why? just do that.

24:36.71
booooox
Yeah I mean well again Rape is not her sponsor um, especially on the the poor coffin of your child.

24:43.68
jim_phoenix
It was not.

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24:52.14
jim_phoenix
There was no poor coffin is there is like gold I think so expensive Coffin Earth Top coffin.

24:52.60
booooox
Um, let’s put a ah well we’re going to talk about I’m going to talk about Coffins later So I’ll put a pit in that. Yeah Coffin So what is there anything redeemable is the music. Okay.

25:09.16
jim_phoenix
Shit the music is so bad that to the first episode they switched back to the game and thrones theme zone.

25:10.80
booooox
The Cinematography good.

25:17.54
booooox
You Oh God I mean um.

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25:19.96
jim_phoenix
The Matt the thing that works Matt Smith Matt Smith work but he pulls a heavy load on this one. No pun onana and that he is the show. The other people are just kind of plastic even the princesses.

25:23.77
booooox
Yeah, sounds like it. No.

25:39.00
jim_phoenix
Sort of okay but it’s things I think the actress for the princess is being I call it a thirteenth doctor effect. She could be a good actress. She could be a great princess in the Targarian line but the writing sucks ass for her. So she’s not getting the actual chance to do anything.

25:56.31
booooox
Plus it could be the direction that she’s given to.

25:58.90
jim_phoenix
Yet, yeah, and that’s whole thing like it should could be wonderful, but just there’s almost a spark and then it’s like oh we’re gonna talk the episode that just aired by the way we record this on the twenty second so it’s the last episode that aired. I believe I called it. 59 minutes of walking and talking like this is not her fault. It’s not the actress fault. It’s the in writing is the director. It’s the show running. It’s a lot of shit’s wrong with it. It’s not their fault so unless the next couple episodes are just firing flame balls and shit it doesn’t help to keep.

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26:17.91
booooox
No, no yeah.

26:35.31
jim_phoenix
Jumping in time to a point we don’t know like is this the kid that they were raping before or is that a new person is that that’s her offspring now is the the offspring which is the banam thing later on I don’t know so.

26:40.27
booooox
Move.

26:48.38
booooox
I I do want to point out though too because a lot of times. This is what people get flak on is that like you said it’s not their faults and a lot of times. It’s the actor or the actress that gets the blame put on them. Um.

27:00.76
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah, that’s up here. No.

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27:04.93
booooox
And that’s not fair because they’re they’re doing a job and a lot of times you know the director is the one who directs that the writer is the one you know who write I mean it’s ah it’s a full team. It’s not just one person. So.

27:16.38
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah, yeah, um, even when you think the actor in the actor rankk. Wow Man Even the stuff is for me. Ah, if you if think I just like talk like shit then you’re probably right? It’s not the director or.

27:21.70
booooox
Keep that in mind people when you say stuff online.

27:36.39
jim_phoenix
Writer is. But even if you think the acting is plastic sometimes that’s editing sometimes that’s posts they’re just like we we yeah we need background noises to make it us Believe there’s actual conversations. So when you’re saying hello. My name is and there’s like no other noise. It’s just the actor’s voice.

27:41.18
booooox
Oh yeah, absolutely.

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27:55.67
jim_phoenix
It doesn’t seem natural so we just know something’s off something is plastic or something that or could be the camera could be able like and either.

28:00.17
booooox
Or it could be Adr like shitty Adr you know? and um I mean like the best example of that is like the room whereas he walks in hide dogggy you know and it just so cut so miserably that it it like you said it sounds so plastic and so.

28:08.33
jim_phoenix
Um, now.

28:16.43
jim_phoenix
There.

28:18.20
booooox
Forced and so bad and it’s really not well. It was his fault but it’s really not their fault. You know there’s a lot of people at play here. So what.

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28:27.20
jim_phoenix
Absolutely, it’s the whole thing other redeeming besides Matt Smith no but um and I’m give it a mercy kill right now if it can turn around it. It has a potential to be like a 4 or 5 it really does and that’s the thing that pisses me out like well this could be a great spirit.

28:29.73
booooox
Okay.

28:37.98
booooox
Yeah.

28:42.84
jim_phoenix
I look forward to I think the joke was I look forward to the white Walker the John snows fit off so we can have John snow like snow walking in the snow because that’s how we know I don’t know you could look at the damn joke up I don’t know but I have more I have more. Like hopes for that spinoff now because it can’t possibly worse my remind me but can’t possibly worse in their park I could be hugely wrong like hey not enough rape and then says boy we got that one fix welcome to John’s note but is it’s all that this’s.

29:06.29
booooox
Um, well you could be. You could be wrong. You could be a lot wrong.

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29:20.56
jim_phoenix
All the weird like inside jokes like you know the really big bad guy. We have to protect from the white walkers. No no, no, no that they were done like before the end of the season. So um, you really meant a politics was a big bad guy or. You know you know you’re me the lord of Flame. There’s going like no, no, no, we already kind of mentioned that like half second for John snow and we kind of glanced over it or you know these pirates. Oh you mean the entire storyline that’s like a half a book for george r r martin and like completely forgot about literally. Forgotten about even by the characters in the fucking game of thrones going. There’s pi hurtships you know. So with all that stuff. It’s kind of like just it’s self-eprecating I don’t think they’re trying to be I think there’s like really oh look. We’re we’re pointing towards the future like you’re pointing towards the book’s future. But not will you actually cut and aired on Hbo so 2.5 if without Matt Smith this is a one by the way or negative some with Matt 2.5 the end. Yeah, so with that said.

30:20.33
booooox
Okay, that’s yeah, okay, that’s that’s fair that sounds fair, No, it’s gonna get better so much better.

30:33.43
jim_phoenix
It’s gonna get worse from here guys. What I can’t understand it I think sent to sunria. So obviously that’s not the name of the movie San the sanrant. Oh my God time read? Yeah so here’s it.

30:41.54
booooox
Santa Sangre holy blood holy blood that’s what as mum says holy blood. So good.

30:50.95
jim_phoenix
Yeah, no I don’t give me flashbacks here’s here’s the background on this. We were supposed to do a was art camp I art camp. Yeah, we were supposed to do a podcast like 2000 before the pandemic was it 19

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30:57.72
booooox
Ah, no, it was oh yeah, no, you’re right? it was art camp. It was hi cam.

31:05.62
booooox
Oh no, it was no during the pandemic it was during the pandemic. That’s when we started doing podcasts was I was getting stir crazy in my house and I’m like Jim I have to do something in my house and so we started podcasting.

31:09.71
jim_phoenix
There. Okay I guess it’s still sort. But yeah.

31:18.60
jim_phoenix
12 hours of but um, that that is true.

31:25.46
booooox
And so I had high art triumph with um, somebody else and ah the.

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31:31.77
jim_phoenix
You can Absolutely you know I’m not gonna say you can save the name but the name is and ah there there you go. We said the name.

31:36.52
booooox
Okay, yeah, yeah, so um, this was supposed to be another one that we’re going to do um and because I have the best luck um with co-hosts. Um.

31:50.21
jim_phoenix
Yes.

31:53.36
booooox
That was actually the one that we never actually sat down to do and that was the one that like broke us. Yeah yeah, he watched it I I love this movie.

31:59.76
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, and that was the guest on that show. So I had to actually watch this fucking movie. Yeah I hated it every second like why is this torturing I mean this is before I was just.

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32:10.78
booooox
I Love this movie.

32:14.19
jim_phoenix
When we did podcasting like here’s the money you guys do po what you want like I’ll buy it for and just yeah, yeah, and that was painful experience for me I mean it was you know absolutely care stay help everything and I I have a surprise for you box.

32:17.49
booooox
Yep, like but for song and a dance. That was. I Love this movie. What both? yes.

32:33.37
jim_phoenix
Or jam running I Surprised you all the way from I I got your old cohost back higher campmp. Yeah yeah, that’s why that’s why I brought you to this cave. Yeah, it’s not but.

32:42.62
booooox
Now you don’t yeah ah oh yeah, to kill me I thought it was to kill me and to make a tape out of it and you could call it. The.

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32:51.93
jim_phoenix
No, no, no, no, no, no, we we no.

32:59.25
booooox
Cave Ksy Tape Cave tips.

32:59.44
jim_phoenix
Cave Kify Behaves not cave tipsy done. No, but we have none are coming back live right? now you ready say hi.

33:08.19
booooox
I Don’t think I’m gonna like this I don’t think I’m gonna like this what a high I don’t like this.

33:17.81
jim_phoenix
Ah, oh what do you mean? no like us no time no see or something like that I’d like penis I like that dude who played the Goblin Buses name Penis don’t you think Bully is deep.

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33:30.94
booooox
I haven’t any I don’t like this.

33:37.10
jim_phoenix
I think we need 3 more episodes on bully do you what do you mean you’t like this I’d still like I don’t like this stuff and stuff is stuff. You don’t like your ear.

33:39.75
booooox
I don’t like this I don’t like this jam Jim I don’t like this I don’t like this I’m calling it I’m calling it I don’t like this. What’s what’s her secret word.

33:56.28
jim_phoenix
Ah, so guess like have like you know funny is I couldn’t remember that the person is out the special guest couldn’t remember what’s his name at Attic guys. No de fo Wow that.

33:56.89
booooox
No banana hammock I don’t like it.

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34:08.19
booooox
Will im Defoe willem Defoe yes I did yes I did and is there any other.

34:15.11
jim_phoenix
From Penis you got will in to fall from peanut or to fall.

34:23.10
jim_phoenix
Um I don’t know it was a Roy Bre breath think it’s a bully I get was that the one that had 3 episodes bully oh my god that was what what court squared.

34:26.29
booooox
But yes, yes, and poor core court Sweet innocent sweet innocent court court.

34:35.94
jim_phoenix
Sweet Instant core corps did you hear what she did on that exquisite corpse where she’s like the walls were covered when we are fucking leatherns or like human flesh. Yeah, absolutely her.

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34:42.60
booooox
Oh yes, Yes, she’s she’s very gruesome and I love it especially because she says it in such a giggly voice. She’s like and all the walls are. Full of dead skin and it’s crusty and it’s like a guard guard. Ah,, there’s a lot of people.

35:03.90
jim_phoenix
Um, yeah.

35:11.47
jim_phoenix
Yeah, we can’t name who else is on it but we we found a lot about our our staff from that is classic like with the hotel like wait wait. What the question was what’s Yourel. Ah yeah.

35:17.80
booooox
Yeah, those was oh yeah, yep yep, What do you I don’t know what you do at a hotel that was the thing I don’t know.

35:28.17
jim_phoenix
Maybe what the hotel.

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35:33.62
booooox
How you talk to people hotel because I’ve never been there. Um, and it’s like what it’s ok anyway anyway days of past Santa Sanria is one of my favorite movies. It’s it’s.

35:34.99
jim_phoenix
I never bit the 1 hello hotel per oh the the this is the treat me because it’s better than santaangria oh Oxford hundred can get deep. Yeah.

35:53.42
booooox
So good. It is so it is and I’m gonna so absolutely say his name completely wrong Show do Row Ski showed.

35:54.22
jim_phoenix
Oh food, the power. Yeah, this is this is the payback for yoga Holdsers I. Okay yeah.

36:03.33
jim_phoenix
No.

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36:10.14
jim_phoenix
Total Router Go he don. Um, you know we just come come maybe know.

36:11.13
booooox
Joe do rose key. He was the one who made that al topo and holy mountain. So yeah, we call him baby yodel around here these parts and so it was in um conjunction conjunction. Anyway, it was with um argento he wrote this.

36:29.88
jim_phoenix
Um, oh our gentle ah who I playing you off what? oh hi.

36:31.20
booooox
And Leoni don’t don’t nope come back. No come back? Nope we’re talking. We’re talking about this. So it’s an of guardre horror film and um, it takes place in Mexico and it’s it’s it’s. Really a story about love and how love triumphs all? So basically it’s about phoenix um, who is yes, it’s about you. You know, honestly that would make so much sense.

36:50.50
jim_phoenix
No sure is yeah Jim tell me oh I used to watch to watch this movie. You have closer I have arms though.

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37:07.40
booooox
Honestly about you, You do now you do now so his he was a child musician in a circus and um, his father was an asshole and a deadbeat and his mom was a trap.

37:09.95
jim_phoenix
Have arms. It can’t be me I’m in hands. Thanks to John halloy. Um, like Justin Bieber out like meber.

37:26.60
booooox
He’s artist and um, basically there was also um, this little girl. Um, who was a mime and a tight rope Walker and she couldn’t speak and she couldn’t I don’t think she could hear but I can’t remember I don’t know if she was deaf or not.

37:27.36
jim_phoenix
No longer like Justin Bieber

37:39.66
jim_phoenix
So she a mute mime who’s deaf so she was not even a mime she was just just a person which button.

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37:46.76
booooox
Cute as a button cute as a button. She’s just cute as a bun. So basically um, um, ah his mom is also a leader of you. You throw? you’re throwing me up.

38:00.73
jim_phoenix
It’s okay.

38:04.94
booooox
She’s a leader of this religious cult which basically it’s Patron Saint is this.

38:10.17
jim_phoenix
Um, is Grandma cookies. The patrons saying his Grandma’s cookies that the total we allll I know right? Awayg Jesus Christ rap not responded about why you picking things right movies by the way.

38:12.12
booooox
I Wish you wish is this girl who is raped and had her arms cut off. So. You you put the dragon house that’s different.

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38:28.94
jim_phoenix
That’s a that’s incessuous rape. That’s that’s different you you can was it. You still can’t get abortion for that. Really even for that Jesus Christ or least you can like travel state but you can’t just say travel state lines anymore. How to find.

38:39.62
booooox
No, you cannot know so anyway, um the mom finds out about um because the dad’s having enough affair and um, the mom finds out um and kills them ah the dad and.

38:46.53
jim_phoenix
Um, right.

38:56.80
booooox
Her arms get cut off and um I don’t I don’t remember how I don’t remember how and I don’t I remember that she kept screaming Holy blood.

38:59.48
jim_phoenix
You don’t remember how do you here they go I don’t know if something happens the arms fall off or something I Don know they just black Knighted. It’s the black Knight She had a black night.

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39:14.80
jim_phoenix
Holy man sent us a Gliar sanglia.

39:15.20
booooox
Santa San anyway he um the little boy because he sees all this and um, he shuts down. Um, and yeah as one does and he ends up in a um.

39:26.40
jim_phoenix
Um, one dog.

39:34.97
jim_phoenix
O an ass highle sound the sound like the movies is that like Blum house those movies. So I like make file movie.

39:35.25
booooox
And Asylum basically and hey wait We we did watch Asylum on ah on on ah art house if you remember that was the one of my picks.

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39:49.67
jim_phoenix
Oh ah, oh that’s the one that had the toaster that I was kind of confused or pain was confused if forgot who actually did it. It’s been a while I don’t know what character with was was pain.

39:58.84
booooox
I think I was paid it was and it was a mixer and me and the other person was like what are you talking about.

40:06.62
jim_phoenix
Oh care that was a mixer. So anyways, jumbbo they had like this like Betty Crocker thing because that’s what women get nowadays bettyracker or somewhere that and it kills everyone that was the entire thing. Yes, oh.

40:17.63
booooox
So anyway Phoenix finds his armless mother eventually after all this time and he goes back to her and becomes her arms. Basically so he is he becomes her arms like literally.

40:35.14
jim_phoenix
Ah.

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40:36.90
booooox
Um, and he plays piano for her and stuff like that. So but the whole thing is he’s never he never fully actualizes and of course there’s murders that go on. Yep, that’s him playing the piano. It’s really groovy.

40:39.90
jim_phoenix
Ah, he plays pianni.

40:48.46
jim_phoenix
Um, just and play piano.

40:53.45
jim_phoenix
With no arms. He’s in that what was it 1 movie be with the guy couldn’t use his hands at all, but somehow could play piano and the head Lou Rago but not really and terra reid and also not really the egyptian one but not really momy dearris. Yeah yeah.

40:55.27
booooox
And with well he’s the arms.

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41:05.78
booooox
oh oh Mumy Dearest Mommy Dearest yeah so it was a different piano. It was a grand piano. This one was a grand piano. So I’m not going to give away.

41:13.37
jim_phoenix
Was it that good of Piano or is it different piano. Oh Grand Multi Grand Oh you through? no I think can get way everything happens. No one would watch it.

41:22.28
booooox
Everything that happens because we don’t give major spoilers. No no, no, we not we gonna because um I want people to go see if you like if you liked the holy mirror if you like El Topo if you like um, something that is.

41:36.90
jim_phoenix
Don’t see it. Don’t see it. Don’t say it? No no who cares? no.

41:40.86
booooox
Different if you like um, what does what does our gento do um the what does that genre. Why can I not think of that genre. Um, it’s It’s not a spaghetti restaurant but it’s kind of.

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41:51.96
jim_phoenix
Almost as spaghetti Western but that’s really wrong if you do like spaghetty weapons. It’s it’s like spitty horror My anold was it gets pumped metal.

41:58.85
booooox
So like that it’s It’s kind of like that. Um, it’s the ah gello if you like chialo Um, you know if you if you like something that’s different give this a shot.

42:10.42
jim_phoenix
Um, that’s not true though I’m like gealo.

42:17.46
booooox
Because yeah I don’t know what to tell you I So I don’t know what to tell you with that. But so now I disagree wholeheartedly. It’s just enough weird to keep you guessing and.

42:17.83
jim_phoenix
Um I like rogueator so much it destroys my relationships and I still hate that movie I think Rolo Gator is a better movie than Santa Andriria or Thangra or.

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42:36.61
booooox
It it like I said it’s a love story. It’s a love story and um, it’s.

42:38.26
jim_phoenix
How was roator did de define The the woman they cast and obviously the writer director producer of it.

42:46.14
booooox
Apparently um, and it’s just beautifully like just um Cinema The cinematography is beautiful. The costumes are beautiful. Um.

42:50.19
jim_phoenix
I’m Joe West of those.

42:59.50
booooox
It has that nitty-gritty feel. It’s kind of dark and sad in places but there is triumph and there is you know a deep now. So I am the I I am.

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43:05.35
jim_phoenix
Um, ah the comic and talk dog. He’s in it un see him in it.

43:16.86
booooox
Wholeheartedly telling people go see. Go see it like if this is something that you think is interesting is interesting. You I think will like it. Um, now.

43:21.79
jim_phoenix
I’m telling you to masturbate from cheese crater insteaded you’ll have more fun. no I’m I’m so sorry no no no no where is my kazoo walk la. Thank youre okay, it’s put it this way if you like yoga hosers food deb back. You’re gonna hate this movie if you like Jaws which came on on imax again box. Do you see it on imax it came out earlier this year jaws.

43:38.29
booooox
It’s it’s good. It’s very good.

43:52.50
booooox
But oh now no I didn’t see it on Imax I Just saw it at the Redford theater twice.

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43:57.39
jim_phoenix
I was watching moonage daydream the they billy one and Imax and they had like preview four jobs. Oh what? if you have ah Imax it might be still coming art towards your way who knows. But if you like any movie that was kind of semi decent. This is not your movie watch house address. This is how much I disliked this way watch house of dragon. Don’t watch here. We go I can agree with this It’s better than cannibal holocaust arguably. Better than that one. That’s it if your choice between cannibal holocaust and what was it Santa Sangria it yeah pick santaangria yeah.

44:42.71
booooox
Santa Sangre oh my god he can’t even guys he cannot even get the title right? So therefore therefore I think point in my direction.

44:53.97
jim_phoenix
Who care? Ah, yeah yeah I would rather watch take Grandma’s and put him where it.

45:10.96
booooox
You love that board. You love that board more than you love.

45:11.80
jim_phoenix
On repeat then watches again. Yeah this what the top 1 is the Za the Zencastr board and I actually have the ah the ro catts are on and you get more into but yeah, sound effects are good for me and.

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45:27.80
booooox
I’m gonna say if 4 I’m saying a 4 4 a 4 The visuals are beautiful. The visuals are beautiful. Maybe it is. It’s avantgarde. It’s different. Yes.

45:28.10
jim_phoenix
I don’t do one what no more a 4 Oh my fuck a 4 dude this the endings of de are are better than this fucking movie. Be.

45:45.33
booooox
You’re not going to get your popcorn type movies. Yes, it is. You’re not going to get your popcorn type movie. It’s not a blum house movie Sorry Plum house. But it’s not it is a movie. It has a beginning a middle and an end I know about Phoenix I Know his struggles I know his.

45:47.25
jim_phoenix
That’s me hitting my head on the damn desk. Okay.

45:54.46
jim_phoenix
Um, is that a movie.

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46:01.49
jim_phoenix
I Know with you? Yeah, his struggle is trying to watch this fucking movie. That’s his struggle I was money say pexes of me. It has a story.

46:04.46
booooox
Problems and I Know. No, it has has a story and that story is about love and self-acceptance and actualization and determination like individualistic determination.

46:25.19
jim_phoenix
Ah, yeah, yeah, ah no, no, no, no, no, ah skip it. What was’s the score You said a what we did as a form.

46:27.32
booooox
From 1 ne’s parents and from one’s dark past? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sad out. Oh there is this oh I just want to let people know there is a sad elephant death I do want to warn you on that there is animal sad. Sadness. It’s not cruelty. It’s acting no this was in the 80 s okay I gave it a 4.

46:47.69
jim_phoenix
There’s animal cruelty. I don’t think it was acting I think this was before our SpCA. Yeah, yeah, all right? So What did you give it for I’m getting a negative one.

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47:05.30
booooox
It is on empires magazine’s list of 500 greatest movies of all time.

47:11.98
jim_phoenix
Fucked that magazine then fuck him right in the ass fuck with and that’s how I’m saying I wouldn’t watch this with Dr Payne paying me paining could tie me to a chair. And put hand sanitizer in places that probably shouldn’t have hand sanitizer and then slap me in the face with mega deaf beer while I watch roller gaator and i’ still pick that option than watching this movie ever again. I can’t tell you how much I dis I’m so sorry. I know you think it’s a good movie. It moved. You was good. It taughts you and that’s art I get it. You know different. That’s why we have this podcast because different people have reactions to they. So so what did I fucking so did I doesn’t mean I’m good.

47:55.80
booooox
It won a bunch of awards.

48:03.49
booooox
A lot more than yoga hosers.

48:04.77
jim_phoenix
You know I wouldn’t walk to Washington I did that wrong but didn’t write yoga hoser I don’t go shit know. But I I I don’t know man I don’t see it a negative one.

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48:11.35
booooox
I’m just saying it’s It’s very good. It’s very good. Okay, what are you giving it. You said a negative one negative one.

48:23.64
jim_phoenix
negative One negative one through so as the scale goes from negative 1 to 4 much like my um robot sex style but enough about my cho finish all right? So we had a big old time we i.

48:40.72
booooox
A big old time. It wasn’t fun time. It wasn’t a gay time. It was a just a big old time.

48:43.35
jim_phoenix
You know, let’s get this done is the big old time. What what movie be, we’re into next week or next time together. Let’s let’s get that out of the way because this one was like had pants.

48:53.22
booooox
We yeah, we we said that we were gonna have 1 together. What was it again. We both said it. Ah, we now we said it during the recording we said? yes we did.

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48:59.24
jim_phoenix
Shit I forgot what it was. We said it right before we found recording to I thought bad during the recording anyones who’s listening Please let me know what when ire supposed to watch actually that be awesome if it’s just like he me or something like that that we can. Ah.

49:13.16
booooox
You have to go back and like edit it dude. Ah oh my god Jesus. Oh yeah, yay I don’t know well you were the one that it’s like oh we should talk and I’m like oh.

49:16.88
jim_phoenix
I Don’t be off by that’s what then cash for I think it was like some movie were like oh we should probably talk about this one is I think that’s what we like.

49:31.80
booooox
So that is a good movie that we should talk about I can’t remember what it is though anyway. Okay, what are you am I plugging. Okay I have trappist monks.

49:31.60
jim_phoenix
Well Okay, when we listen to playback I’ll go oh that was the movie that was the way yeah has to plus do some plugs box what he got.

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49:49.15
jim_phoenix
Oh yeah, where where they do.

49:51.90
booooox
So I said put it put. Ah I said put a pin on on on Caskets So I’m going to come back. So I’m coming back to casket so trappist monks. Um, basically they are they offer and of course you know there are rules and regulations and whatnot but they offer free.

49:56.97
jim_phoenix
Okay.

50:10.68
booooox
Um, or very moderately priced caskets for for bereaved now like free caskets for bereaved. Um, especially and I hate to to say this. But.

50:15.82
jim_phoenix
Do that. That’s a fucking joke less your plan. Um I thought is Dr sign. That’s your flag so they’re offering free caskets. Well.

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50:30.22
booooox
Also for children. Um, they do that? Um, like and so and like I said they’re monks so they I mean they hand make these um themselves and they give to back to the people because that’s what you know monks are supposed to do and what not? Um, so.

50:33.45
jim_phoenix
How many chili for but no, that’s ah, that’s what I get for.

50:49.65
booooox
Basically you can go to trappist caskets and that’s trapp istcasketscasketsdotcom and you can kind of look at they got urns. They have keepsakes. Um. Have things like that if you want to give to them. It’s also there. Um, but it’s just it’s it’s such They’re beautiful caskets. It’s a beautiful cause. Um they seem like they they put a prayer on each casket that goes out. It’s just it’s it’s nice It’s nice, especially when people are in a time of need and when people are at 1 of the lowest points you can be as a human after losing somebody. It seems like they really step in and help.

51:37.77
jim_phoenix
I Can appreciate that I can appreciate that and if anyone knows or gone through any type of loss and you you know that undertakers are basically up salesmen. It’s like oh.

51:51.30
booooox
So they can be.

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51:54.62
jim_phoenix
Ah, don’t don’t you want this special box that they can never knock now is is still gonna fucking. There’s moisture. So now as the wire is bullshit or don’t you want this special special urn isn’t your love 1 worth it. No I’m pretty sure it’s still pop. But.

52:06.35
booooox
Yeah, wouldn’t Grandma wouldn’t grandma want the satin lined blub blah blah blah blah.

52:12.15
jim_phoenix
Yeah, wouldn’t yeah, don’t you like those don’t you care it doesn’t grand enough.

52:15.85
booooox
Did don’t you want her casket to smell just like Grandma’s cookies well for an extra $200 we can make that happen. Yeah.

52:23.35
jim_phoenix
Um I Want you know we can throw in. It’s like just yeah so I can think I can get beyond that you know anyone who can make things a little bit lesser in price.

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52:35.95
booooox
Other.

52:38.25
jim_phoenix
And still give some the zenance of closure I think that’s a good thing but that’s a good pick and just like boxes burb Jane Brownock’s pick my pick is something about death. Are you afraid? Do you want to like cheat death. We can’t really cheat death but you can outrun death especially if you’re wearing zero shoes. X e r s h e s dot um zero shoot dot com we’re having a sale up to 70% off right now because they’re having a new supply coming in of the different fashion. So if if you’ve seen some of like I got three six s the other day and they’re they’re lovely and I have I think speed force I have like I bought.

52:58.19
booooox
Fuck off fuck. Ah.

53:17.79
jim_phoenix
3 pair 0 shows one for hiking and 1 for everyday wear and 1 for running on the on the track on the road I mean and I can’t get enough them. They are the only ones I have a big feet and they don’t sell them in Canada Big enough shoes for me so zero shoes x e r s h o e s dot com you guys are all lovely. And if you act now it’s like 7%. Also why wouldn’t you matter? Of fact, just by their economical ecological and I think that’s ethcentrical statements I ever so a few ba for it beautifully I’m I’m giving the the gift of happy feet. Go so there you have we have cass for kids and shoes our our our plugs have come sometime a long way. They come lot will with my have Trevor projects and like charities. But I guess that one of the parity style but I just.

53:59.58
booooox
And she was.

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54:15.32
jim_phoenix
Ah, like shoes. So of that being said I love these sure you know Howard honestly not, they’re wide box and like no I mean they’re theyre wide box the to box they’re they’re wide box for toes and I I can’t.

54:17.24
booooox
Ah, you like these shoes. You love those shoes. Ah excuse me. Ah.

54:33.20
jim_phoenix
Bit most shoes. So I have to like gul up with 3 or 4 sizes just to fit my feetm. These were beautiful that there were the one shoes like oh my god I can actually fit in them. It’s ah it’s a touching thing. So big shoes.

54:43.87
booooox
You know what they say about a guy with big feet. He’s not Cinderella. He’s not Cinderella. Oh.

54:52.13
jim_phoenix
Not in to wrong. Well I am no wickeds tip sisters. So with that being said on the behalf of myself who am I good Jim Phoenix at my special cohost j m branick and like well.

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54:58.86
booooox
Her.

55:09.77
booooox
Good goodbye.

55:11.49
jim_phoenix
As we always say if there is a movie you haven’t seen thank god because don’t watch Santa disagree is completely horrible thing good everyone. It’s bad bo what is my booing. What is my booing.

55:20.27
booooox
It’s great. It’s good. It’s so good.

55:28.62
booooox
I.

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55:29.45
jim_phoenix
Um, no, not more blood are the gaze are you to boo. Um.

55:38.28
booooox
Yay Santas agree but fail.

55:43.61
jim_phoenix
Um, oh you hear a cat. Okay Bye row on.

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Same Same, But Different. Five EU Stories Which Show Doctor Who monsters in a New Light

See how different creators of Audio Plays, Comics and Books reinvent familiar monsters in unique ways

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One of the paradoxes of being a Doctor Who fan is you want more of the same, but not too much the same.  If you like a particular character or monster, you want them to come back, but not do the exact same thing a second time, instead using a second opportunity to explore a different angle that we didn’t see the first time around.  However, even then for characters and monsters we’ve been seeing for sixty years, how many more angles can we see? 

Luckily, the Doctor Who fan also has the Extended Universe, one of the largest and most diverse in pop culture with a mixtures of books, audio plays and comics across sixty years of entertainment to enjoy.  And in that time, we see views and interpretations of monsters we have never seen before or since. 

Today we’re just going to focus on five monsters, and recommendations for each, but let me know if there’s any monster or character I’ve missed that you’d like to see more of.

The Silurians/Earth Reptiles

First introduced in 1970’s “Doctor Who and the Silurians” the creatures also known as “Earth Reptiles” were one of the first challenges to the Earth-bound era of Doctor Who having to be about alien invasions all the time.  The Silurians aren’t aliens, they’re more Earthlings than we are, having predated humanity but going into hibernation during the time the mammals rose.  After first menacing Jon Pertwee’s third Doctor, they were reintroduced during the Eleventh Doctor’s era in 2010’s “The Hungry Earth” and “Cold Blood”

Since then, while rarely a main monster of a storyline, they have continued to make regular cameos, most significantly with the reoccurring character of Madame Vastra, the Doctor’s ally detective in Victorian London. 

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New Interpretation – Bloodtide (2001)

Colin Baker’s Sixth Doctor is the best Doctor for the Big Finish Audio Range, and the Big Finish Audio range is the best example of the Sixth Doctor.  With freedom from the difficult production era of the mid-eighties, and coupled with companions like history professor, Evelyn Smythe, (Portrayed by the great Maggie Stables), who was able to challenge the Doctor’s morality and even teach him a thing or two, the Sixth Doctor was given opportunities to be nicer and more definitively a hero, while still being the loud bombastic Doctor of the television series.

Bloodtide sees the Doctor and Evelyn travelling to the Galapagos Islands at the same time in history as Charles Darwin is developing his studies into what will eventually become his theory of evolution.  However, there is another race on the islands, and their influence over humanity will put that theory, and the existence of humanity to the test. The relationship between humanity and the Silurians varies significantly across the appearances, with some stories suggesting no overlap between Silurians and humanity, but this story explores the idea of Silurians being influential in the development of humanity, and seeing us as equivalent to domesticated animals who became feral.  Also, in a novel twist, instead of Silurians suddenly awakening to explore the world, Bloodtide has Silurians already in control of a degree of humanity, albeit a small one, and presents one idea where Silurians and Humanity existence in a master-servant state.

Honorable Mentions

Blood Heat – Presenting a parallel world where the Silurians successfully wipe out much of humanity with a virus, the Silurians, and their cousins the Sea Devils now control the planet with only a minimal force of human rebels opposing them.

The Cybermen – A Doctor Who Magazine (DWM) comic strip which explores the origin of the Cybermen, and connects their creation to a race of Silurians on Earth’s twin planet Mondas


Weeping Angels

The only modern series monster that can really be considered a major reoccurring antagonist, the Weeping Angels, first appeared in the Tenth Doctor story “Blink” where transport people to the past and feed of the time energies that have been left behind.  Their primary characteristic, being stone when in view, and moving quickly when not seen, created a sense of terror for characters Sally Sparrow, and also the viewers at home. 

While originally in their first story there was only four of the angels present, their second appearance in “Flesh and Blood” heightened the fear factor, with the Eleventh Doctor stuck on a world infested by Angels.  Other stories had the Angel develop a farm where human temporal energy could be harvested repeatedly, and even turning the Thirteenth Doctor briefly into a Weeping Angel herself.


New Interpretation – Grey Matter from Twelve Angels Weeping

One of the limitations of a horror based monster like the Weeping Angels in Doctor Who, is that the Doctor must survive, and almost always wins.  It’s hard to be too terrified when we already know the result, and that our hero would likely survive. 

This story is different though.

On the Planet Gehanna, a plague has broken out among the twelve separate human cities.  Our story starts on City One, the last remaining city free from the outbreak, though keeping tightly controlled with specialized breath masks being work at all times to protect its citizens.  The Twelfth Doctor arrives, and is quickly captured and taken for interrogation as an outsider by the City’s Chief Medical Officer, and finds the Medical Officer’s other prisoner, a tortured and disfigured weeping angel. 

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Not to give too much spoilers away, but despite this being a Christmas themed anthology, this story feels more like Halloween.  Angels are seen as victims initially here, but also vengeful, vindictive, and ultimately victorious, with fear inducing scenes conveyed in text but conveying an impact not seen since their initial appearance in “Blink”

Honorable Mention – The Weeping Angel of Mons

Bridging the gap between their first appearance in “Blink” this story sees the Tenth Doctor finding the Angel using the cover of WWI to feast on humanity.  This story has a lot of elements in common with “Angels of Manhattan”and “Blink” but seems like a natural sequel to “Blink” with intensity and involvement of angels increasing but only slightly. 


The Cybermen

Considered one of the Big Two Monsters of Doctor who, these cyborg threats first appeared in 1966’s “The Tenth Planet”, the final story of the First Doctor’s era.  The Cybermen were originally humanoids from the Earth’s twin planet, Mondas, but following their planet being flung out of orbit, and moving away from Earth’s sun, they used gradual replacement of their parts with robotic and computer elements to become the cold, emotionless Cybermen.  Since then we’ve seen a range of Cybermen, from Telos ice vaults, to parallel universes, to the Twelfth Doctor introducing the idea that they are the natural evolution whenever a planet’s technology takes over.  However, the idea of the Cybermen conquering planets, in particular Earth, has remained consistent across all variations, as well as their constant rejection of all emotions as a weakness. 

New Interpretation: Killing Ground

The Cybermen in most of Doctor Who are seen as attempting to invade the planet, but rarely is it explored what would happen if they were successful.  They’re not like Daleks, killing things because they honestly believe they should die.  They’re not like Sontarans, using conquered planets as tools in their war against an enemy.  Mostly during Cybermen stories their motivation is to survive, to take a planet in order to avoid extinction. 

In the “Killing Ground” the Cybermen are still aiming for survival, but that is happening off page.  In the outer context of the story, the Cybermen are weakened, after a Cyber-War they were on the losing side for.  However, on this planet, the planet Agora, they have remained in complete control of the planet for almost fifty years.  People are used as source material for Cybermen to allow the Cyber race to grow in other areas of the cosmos, not to keep control on Agora as most rebellions have been violently suppressed at this time.

Onto this planet arrives the Sixth Doctor and his companion Grant Markham, who was transported  from Agora as a child in order to escape the future of being a Cybermen when his body should prove useful. 

The idea of a reoccurring monster not only invading a planet, but maintaining the control for decades is uncommon for any monster, and the image of what a Cyber-run world would look like adds a new fear, and shows how despite being emotionless, the Cybermen can be cruel with their logical responses. 

Honorable Mentions

Throwback the Soul of the Cybermen -Similar to “Killing Ground” this also shows a Cyberman occupied planet, where there is only slight conflict between the Cybermen and their human slaves.  However, in this story we meet Cyberman Kroton, a Cyberman with a soul, struggling to understand humanity and our emotions, rather than reacting to them. 

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The Flood – The last Eighth Doctor comic strip features the Cybermen attempting to invade Earth.  The comic artist takes full advantage of the range an artist has to make versions of the Cybermen which can never be seen on TV or have an actor inside them.  In addition, this story presents the Cybermen as benevolent – removing emotions removed due to an honest belief they cause harm and distress, so those without them will have improved quality of life. 


The Autons

Servants of the Lovecraftian Nestene consciousness, the Autons are plastic robots, with inbuilt hand weaponry, and skills in duplication.  They first appeared in 1970, facing a newly regenerated Third Doctor, memorably bursting from the shop windows and shooting at passerbys in the final episode of “Spearhead From Space.”

This initial stand out scene was replicated for the relaunch, with the Ninth Doctor and Rose opposing the Autons and their Nestene rulers in the first Ninth Doctor Episode “Rose” when they again appear as shop window dummies attacking the public.

New Interpretation – Brave New Town

In the original stories from the 1970’s, the Autons connected to their controllers, the Nestenes, through Nestene crystal spheres which travel to Earth as meteorites.  Usually if this connection to the Nestenes is cut off the Autons cease to be. 

But what if they don’t?  What would Autons be if they weren’t guided for a time by the Nestenes?  Consdeirng their skills for impersonation, could they impersonate so well they confused themselves?

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This is the question asked in the Eighth Doctor Big Finish story, where the Doctor and his companion Lucie Miller find the quiet seaside town of Thorington is repeating the same day over and over.  Soon they find the planet has many secrets, and its population having been used by monsters both otherworldly and Human. 


Daleks

The Daleks are THE Monster talked about when discussing Doctor Who, the first alien/monster opponent of the entire series, the second antagonist and second alien featured over all.  They have fought against every version of the Doctor, including each of the main Television Doctors, as well as the War Doctor as portrayed by John Hurt, parallel universe Doctors in the Unbound Series and the movie version of Doctor Who, portrayed by Peter Cushing. 

They have featured in Board Games, Video Games, Comics, Comic Strips, Books, Audio Plays, Stage Shows, Escape Rooms – any form of media that could feature the metal monsters from Skaro have featured them. 

So with so many stories showing their evil, their hatred for all other beings, their belief in Dalek supremacy as the natural order of things, what is there left to explore?

New Interpretation – Children of the Revolution

In 1967, Patrick Troughton completed his first season as the second Doctor, with the story “Evil of the Daleks.” This epic seven part story had the Doctor travelling between present day Earth, the Victorian era, and Skaro itself in search for the stolen TARDIS, and on the way uncovering the Dalek plan to discover what makes a Dalek a Dalek, the Dalek factor, and insert it into human kinds to create a Dalek race.

However, the Daleks are defeated by the Doctor instilling three Daleks with a Human factor – creating Daleks with a sense of fun, playfulness, and particularly the ability to question and think for themselves.  This tendency leads to disunity, and as the Doctor spreads the Human factor to more Daleks, a civil war emerges between the rival forces of Daleks.  This was originally devised as the final Dalek story, with the might Dalek emperor being exterminated, and the Dalek city destroyed.

Of course, the Daleks returns around five years later, and a cut piece of dialogue from “Day of the Daleks” said the rebellion was crushed, and the Humanised Daleks exterminated. 

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But what if the survived?  What if the Daleks who were more human lost the war, but escaped?  This is the question the DWM comic strip “Children of the Revolution” aims to answer.

The Eighth Doctor, and his companion Izzy, arrive on the water planet of Kyrol, where a crew of humans on a submarine are captured by a secret Dalek colony.  But this is not a colony preparing nefarious schemes, but just hiding to survive, knowing they are hared by not just other Daleks, but all other species who see Daleks as a threat.  While the Doctor tries to defuse tensions between the human prisoners and the Daleks he played a part in creating, outside enemies attempt to manipulate the situation for their own benefit.

This story shows a world of what would Daleks be if they used their intelligence for acts other that destruction.  How would they view other races if they did not see them worthy of destruction?  We see a Dalek race that invests in art, in scientific curiosity, but can also see the difficulty the Doctor faces in wanting to protect them, while also seeing the point of the humans who want to be free. 

With amazing visuals of Daleks underwater, this is an amazing story and well worth a read.

Honorable mentions:

Jubilee – This audio play by Robert Shearman served as a basis for the eventual television episode “Dalek” but the original audio is very very different and as a result can be enjoyed in a separate way.  The Doctor and Evelyn Smythe arrive on an Earth celebrating a hundred years since the failed Dalek invasion, one the Doctor and Evelyn stopped but have not recalled it at all. 

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Prisoner of the Daleks

While we often hear of the massive Dalek armies of the Dalek war, due to budgets we rarely see them, instead usually seeing small Dalek forces attempting invasions or attacks of certain areas.  Prisoner of the Daleks has the Tenth Doctor landing in a timeline prior to the Time War, where Daleks are a dominant force, with the Earth empire attempting to fight back by paying bounty hunters to destroy Daleks.  The strength and intelligence of the Daleks in this story is impressive, with the Doctor largely being helpless to out manipulate or defeat them until the very end.  Also, for a book from the BBC era which tended to be lighter, this is a dark world, with planets destroying themselves with nuclear weapons to prevent Dalek invasion and the survivors captured anyway by the Daleks who are not deterred by this act. 


This article just touches on some of the Doctor who monsters and villains that can be appreciated in new ways in the Extended Universe.  Of course there are many other ways to appreciate them, and many other monsters and villains to explore.  Please share any characters you’d like to find out about their varied appearances in the comments below. 

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The Boys, We’ll Keep the Red Flag Flying Here

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We’re on episode three of Amazon Prime’s The Boys. And with only eight episodes in the season, that means we’re already a quarter of the way through. It also means that we’ve hit a slower episode.

Don’t worry, though, there’s still plenty of blood to go around.

The story

We begin our episode with Ryan playing a video game. This turns out to be a guise for him to talk to Butcher. They agree to meet up in person.

Meanwhile, The Boys are charging forward without Butcher’s involvement. They’re planning to bug a building where an ice show is taking place. Hughie crawls into the air ducts to plant the bug, because apparently, nobody remembers what happened the last time he had to do that. He’s caught by Homelander, and a hilarious and bloody fight ensues. At the last moment, Hughie is saved by the last person he expected to be saved by.

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Jack Quaid in The Boys.

Meanwhile, Kimiko and Frenchie attack a nearby group affiliated with the people who kidnapped her as a child. Or, at least that’s the plan. Rather than being any help at all, Frenchie has a rubber duckie-themed drug trip and Kimiko has to fend entirely for herself. All because Frenchie is having a hard time dealing with the fact that he murdered his boyfriend’s family.

What worked

The first thing I’d like to shine a light on is Sage. She fascinates me. It must be so exhausting to deal with someone like Homelander who pretends to care about your input but really doesn’t. And we see that near the end of the episode.

Being so damn smart all the time, and having to constantly explain yourself to people who don’t care to follow along, is tiring. So it makes perfect sense that she’s found at the end of the episode watching TV and eating junk food. I appreciate the acknowledgment of mental exhaustion and decision fatigue.

I also love how Butcher is growing as a person. He is making better, healthier decisions for the people around him that he loves. In this episode we see him protect Ryan from Joe. We saw him choose Hughie over his self-interests earlier in the season. It seems as though impending death is doing wonders for his overall decision-making.

What didn’t work

As I mentioned before, this was a slower episode. On the one hand, it’s nice to have a moment to catch our breaths in this very fast-paced series.

On the other hand, there is a slow pace and then there’s an episode that’s just weighed down by stuff we don’t care about.

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For example, we learn in this episode that Starlight and Firecracker were both in the pageant circuit together. Starlight ruined Firecracker’s career by spreading a rumor that she’d slept with the judges. So now she wants to destroy Starlight’s reputation.

While I’m thrilled that we have a female antagonist whose motivations aren’t centered around how a man did her wrong, I don’t care about this high school bullshit. I don’t care if Starlight was a mean girl in high school. We have big girl storylines to get to. Don’t bog us down with this Degrassi bullshit.

I am fascinated by where this season is going so far. Sage and Homelander working together is so much more frightening than just Homelander himself. See, Homelander’s hubris has struck him down many times. Now he’s brought in someone smarter. All he has to do is humble himself enough to work with her, and he can’t lose.

Antony Starr in The Boys.

As we saw in this episode, though, this might be a big ask for him. He just cannot fight his nature. And that might be the saving grace for The Boys. Because they sure as hell don’t have their shit together right now.

3.5 out of 5 stars (3.5 / 5)

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The Boys, Life Among The Septics

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Episode two of Amazon Prime’s The Boys was an upsetting ride from start to finish. It was dark and upsetting. But in a strange way, it was also inspiring.

Let’s discuss.

The story

We begin this episode with A-Train filming his ‘origin story’ movie. And he’s not thrilled with how the movie is going, which is understandable. The movie is about a struggling young man who’s involved in the drug trade and is saved by his white running coach. In reality, A-Train was never involved in drugs until he got hooked on V, and was coached by his older brother. This erasure of his personal history, which also drips with racism and white savior complex, is hurting him.

He’s not the only one who’s grating under the pressure of Vought. Ryan is now completely in their clutches. And they are hard at work making him a teenage superhero. Which just seems to upset him more than anything. Given that he loses control of his powers and accidentally kills an innocent man, that’s understandable. And of course, the only parent he has left is Homelander, who seemed to think the way to handle the issue was with frosty chocolate milkshakes.

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Antony Starr and Cameron Crovetti in The Boys.

I’m very concerned about Ryan.

What worked

I first want to talk about Ryan’s storyline.

Homelander, worried that he’s going to die, is trying to build a legacy for his son. He wants Ryan to be a beloved superhero. But Ryan doesn’t seem thrilled about this. At least, not in the way it’s being done. And it is being done in an extremely gross way.

Homelander wants Ryan to be just like him. But Ryan isn’t. He sees people as, well, people. He feels remorse. He misses Butcher. He’s dealing with a lot of pain that comes from caring about other people. And that is something that Homelander just cannot understand.

One of them is going to sway the other. I’m hoping that it’s Ryan, but it’s impossible to tell.

The storyline that has my attention the most, though, is the one involving A-Train. We’ve seen such an evolution in this character. Every time he seems like he’s going to make progress, he takes several bloody steps back. But I think he’s finally at a cracking point. There is goodness in him. And he’s risked his life to get Annie and Hughie information before. While it might be self-serving, it is still work towards the good.

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I want so, so badly for him to be good. And that’s a sign of great character writing.

What didn’t work

Here’s something that did irritate me. And it’s something that has irritated me through the whole series so far. But a moment in this episode brought it to a head for me.

Hughie’s mom, Daphne, comes to the hospital with a bag full of MLM oils that are from a Vought company. This annoyed me because not every single evil thing in this world has to come from Vought.

Laz Alonso, Karl Urban and Tomer Capone in The Boys.

And so far, it has. There are no corrupt politicians unless they work for Vought. There are no crooked news anchors, abusive parents, predatory companies, or bad situations unless they come from or are in some way involved in Vought. At some point, like with this episode, it just becomes laughable.

Look, I know The Mouse is evil, but Doterra still exists.

This season is going to hit on some uncomfortable, but sadly realistic moments. I think we’re going to discuss child star abuse, generational trauma, the pain of being Black in America, and watching a loved one pass away. I think this is going to be a hard season. But I also think it’s going to be a good one.

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I guess we’ll find out. 4 out of 5 stars (4 / 5)

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